Castle Aching

[ChrisN]

Green.  Of course the Cambrian had green locos, even if it was invisible green, and of course bronze green carriages, which some people think was nearly brown.

[Edwardian]

Eastern Counties- Green 

[Orion]

1 hour ago, Edwardian said:

Eastern Counties- Green 

No, they used Tilling Red IIRC

 

 

[Hroth]

A much more optimistic destination than the 11B to Cemetery Gates!

 

 

[Edwardian]

1 hour ago, Hroth said:

A much more optimistic destination than the 11B to Cemetery Gates!

 

 

 

Well, I've been going West for years, which is why I live on the eastern side of the country; I'm trying to drag it out for as long as possible.

[robmcg]

9 hours ago, Nearholmer said:

'Practicable', rather than 'possible', I think.

 

The art of the possible could include rail-mounted tea-clippers, acting as tractive units, which would undoubtedly be less environmentally impactful than even the best of current technology.

 

Rail-mounted wind-driven...

 

Our semi-Green NZ Government has a retirement/superannuation fund which although returning over 10% per year from investments like fast food chains recently  has,

choke,

banned oil and gas exploration around our existing fields, this being our current backup to hydro and geothermal, result, we import Indonesian oil.. thousands locally out of work

banned investment in oil or petro-chemical companies

banned investment in MINING.   (where do they think plastic, steel and aluminium come from)

 

Is seizing privately owned farm land  so as to improve bio diversity management, banning herbicides, is allowing dope consumption run by gangs... which are growing both dope dealing methamphetamines and more and are growing in numbers.

Wants to give the vote to prisoners and children.

 

These Government people drive in BMWs and presumably  think power comes out of wall sockets, and copper wires from powerstations made of, I don't know.

 

Still, by all accounts Europe is even more insane...   tell me it isn't true,   somebody?

 

I just want to say that most people under 30 are demonstrably collectively mad.

 

Have you read Bernie Sanders policy?  Everything will be free, to everyone.

 

Sorry,  but I thought I would test everyone's patience again with an irrelevant post, will remove it happily if requested.

 

 

 

 

[Hroth]

Bernie Sanders: His initials say it all, he reminds me of our own beloved Jeremy Corbyn (lets not even consider HIS initials).  Sanders as a prospective Democratic presidential candidate would certainly mean 4 more years of Trump.  I don't think the world could stand that.

 

And then there's TizerVirus.

 

Where's the timetable for the 11B service?

 

[robmcg]

A wooden water wheel and a babbling brook by every house,  to drive the grinding wheel to make the grain... 

 

didn't Edwardian have a babbling brook some days ago?  He could have harnessed the flow, and stored the power in lithium iron batteries and...   ah, no,  wait....

 

Mill on the Floss

[Hroth]

Millon de Floss?  Isn't he Lola Vavooms official stalker?

 

[Edwardian]

Ah, yes, the Democrat nomination.  I was rooting for Pete Budgieshed, but now it seems to be a contest between Joe Biden, a man who, if he was a type of wall covering, would be Woodchip painted Magnolia, and Oh Bernie Sanders.

 

Youth, as they say, is wasted on the young. Well, so, apparently, is education, or are they all somehow bound to fulfill Clemenceau's maxim?* Still, I find some grim satisfaction that in the US, they're about to repeat a mistake that Brits recently made, as, usually, it's the other way around.   

 

* I refer here to "Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head", though see also "“America is the only nation in history which, miraculously, has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilisation.”.

 

While I think about it, how long is a period of reflection anyway?

 

The People's beer is stale and flat

We named it for that bearded tw--

 

 

 

 

[crackedmember]

Did not the M&GN paint its locomotive Willow Green including the Johnson 4-4-0's at some point.

[Edwardian]

4 minutes ago, crackedmember said:

Did not the M&GN paint its locomotive Willow Green including the Johnson 4-4-0's at some point.

 

Not that I know of.  IIIRC one of the constituents, possibly Eastern & Midland before it went brown, had a green livery, probably similar to, and contemporary with, the Johnson green of the GER.

 

The GER under Sinclair was reputedly pea green, then S W Johnson made it darker, probably quite like Midland green. So GER was green up to 1873.

 

 

[robmcg]

Thank you for that clear-thinking response, Edwardian. 

 

It is important that people know that NZ having elected a young female PM who has zero skill beyond wearing hijabs and posing with young people for selfies, heads a coalition Government whose policies are predominantly those thought up by the wide-eyed teenage girls who are delighted by being in the selfies, and have never heard of The Somme, or even WW2.

 

Smash the Patriarchy.

 

but offend no one, we all need to have safe places.

 

remember our victimhood...

 

which is a little off M&GN engine liveries, which is a far nicer subject.  I just received a Hornby Princess Elizabeth 6201 so there can be no doubt that LMS Crimson is the colour de jour...

[Edwardian]

For balance, Rob, I should say that, in recent years there have been a number of democratic outcomes that, for me, suggest that our Doomed Youth have no monopoly on folly!

 

Which is more culpable, the naivety of Youth, frustrating though it is in its emphatic ignorance, or the delusions of the old, who are old enough to know better, and who will escape the long-term consequences of their folly?

 

Oh, I'm in a cheerful mood tonight!  

[Compound2632]

According to Digby, "Willow Green" is one of the alternative descriptions of the standard M&GN locomotive colour, along with "Autumn Leaf" and "Golden Ochre". Digby says "there was apparently no official title"; he also describes it as "lighter than but not too dissimilar from the E&M 'milk chocolate', being a light brown or ochre." In the early years, two coats of yellow ochre were followed by one of raw sienna and three of varnish - but this must all have been over a priming coat, which could have been either red or grey. [N.J.L. Digby, A Guide to the Midland & Great Northern Joint Railway (Ian Allan, 1993).]

 

It's not recorded whether the livery was Johnson's or Marriott's choice. I like to think it was Johnson's tribute to his old friend Stroudley. 

[Edwardian]

2 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

According to Digby, "Willow Green" is one of the alternative descriptions of the standard M&GN locomotive colour, along with "Autumn Leaf" and "Golden Ochre". Digby says "there was apparently no official title"; he also describes it as "lighter than but not too dissimilar from the E&M 'milk chocolate', being a light brown or ochre." In the early years, two coats of yellow ochre were followed by one of raw sienna and three of varnish - but this must all have been over a priming coat, which could have been either red or grey. [N.J.L. Digby, A Guide to the Midland & Great Northern Joint Railway (Ian Allan, 1993).]

 

It's not recorded whether the livery was Johnson's or Marriott's choice. I like to think it was Johnson's tribute to his old friend Stroudley. 

 

Essery tends to eschew the more poetic descriptions, calling it what he says it was, a species of light brown.

 

I like to think of it as "golden gorse", however!

[monkeysarefun]

Not sure what NSWGR call this green that the 3801 was wearing at some point.

 

Here it is with Jesus at the wheel and a flying scotsman thingy for comparison.

Edited March 3, 2020 by monkeysarefun

[robmcg]

I never felt much empathy with Swindon in general, those people were far too good at everything, but I did like their defiant painting of engines green in BR days. 

 

If I may be permitted

 

 

Swindon>  BR>  Cat.

 

Late summer,

 

It had to be done, as I have been stuck in bed these last four days. small skin break

 

the cat is indifferent.

 

 

 

Edited March 4, 2020 by robmcg

[Compound2632]

Green:

 

 

D.G. Rossetti, La Ghirlandata (1871-1874). 

[Compound2632]

My other option was a certain actress in a dodgy 1970s Sci-Fi film, but that's definitely post-grouping and, like much post grouping stuff, fails adequately to cover up the moving parts.

[Hroth]

10 hours ago, robmcg said:

A wooden water wheel and a babbling brook by every house,  to drive the grinding wheel to make the grain... 

 

 

One of my minor appreciations is British Light Music, here's an appropriate piece....

 

 

8 hours ago, monkeysarefun said:

Not sure what NSWGR call this green that the 3801 was wearing at some point.

 

"No one could fail to see THIS!"

(I don't like the way they're poking around the rear of The Flying Rustbucket...)

 

8 hours ago, robmcg said:

Swindon>  BR>  Cat.

 

An interesting progression! Your cat is certainly a Swindon Cat - Sleek and well cared for.  Most BR cats were dirty ratbag moggies with ragged ears...

 

20 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

Green:

 

Mmmmmmmm...  There's not enough pre-raff redheads around.  We need more!

 

 

 

[Nick Holliday]

10 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

According to Digby, "Willow Green" is one of the alternative descriptions of the standard M&GN locomotive colour, along with "Autumn Leaf" and "Golden Ochre". Digby says "there was apparently no official title"; he also describes it as "lighter than but not too dissimilar from the E&M 'milk chocolate', being a light brown or ochre." In the early years, two coats of yellow ochre were followed by one of raw sienna and three of varnish - but this must all have been over a priming coat, which could have been either red or grey. [N.J.L. Digby, A Guide to the Midland & Great Northern Joint Railway (Ian Allan, 1993).]

 

It's not recorded whether the livery was Johnson's or Marriott's choice. I like to think it was Johnson's tribute to his old friend Stroudley. 

According to Ronald Clark in his Short History of the M&GNR, it was Mrs. Marriott who suggested it. Since the line traversed areas of heathland covered in gorse, what better colour to reflect its ethos. So Golden Gorse it became, not the bright yellow of an isolated flower, but the deep lustrous tint when seen in bloom by the acre.

 

[Compound2632]

That leads me to wonder what influence the ladies in this photo had on the locomotive and carriage designs of Messers Johnson and Clayton:

 

 

NRM DY 7125, released under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0) licence by the National Railway Museum.

[Edwardian]

I hope I will be forgiven a little political satire.

 

It struck me that the way to engage a disillusioned population with politics would be to make politicians more like pop celebs. Clearly chanting at Glasto only reaches affluent hippies, so we need something more demotic, sorry, democratic. My thought is that we should adopt a popular entertainment format, like those TV talent shows.  My first step is to introduce the concept of sing-offs for politicians, judged by popular vote, as a way of deciding contests. I should like to see this piloted with the Labour Party leadership election and I have some suggestions for suitable 'numbers':

 

For the Darling of the Middle Class Intelligentsia, we turn to the Thinking Man's Pop Star, the late David Bowie:

 

Sir Keir Starmer

He's centerist and kind

He'd like to be your leader

But he thinks he'll blow your mind

 

For the Marxist-Leninist Continuity Candidate, naturally we need the same old tune, courtesy of  White Stripes' Seven Nation Army:

 

Re-becca-long-bai-ley!

Re-becca-long-bai-ley!

 

Finally, for the currently trailing Authentic Northern Woman-but-not-Corbynite Compromise Candidate, we turn to Barry Manilow:

 

Well, you're a lass and not flash and from Wigan

But I sent you away, oh Nandy

 

We could extend this to prime-ministerial approval ratings, so, for balance, we return to the nursery in search of our self-isolating Prime Minister

 

If you go down to the floods today
You're sure of a big surprise
If you go down to the floods today
There's someone you just won't find!

 

For every time there's something to do

The man in charge is locked in the
Loo, today's the day the
The Bozza is having a frit-fit  

[Compound2632]

No No No... it's gone too far in that direction already. We need to return to Victorian values: each politician should be required to speak extempore for at least three hours on a major issue of the day; only those still awake at the end are permitted to vote.

 

Oh, and the newspapers are required to print each speech verbatim.

Edited March 4, 2020 by Compound2632