Ex steelworks Alco locomotives

[PhilJ W]

12 minutes ago, hmrspaul said:

This one https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/industriallocomotive/e1c060ce7

 

Paul

Thats the one. Scrapped because it didn't boil water.

[PenrithBeacon]

Perhaps because it had no relevance in the UK? 

[PhilJ W]

It was purchased new by Esso to work at Fawley c.1949 where it spent all its working life and it was withdrawn in working order. It was still operable when it was scrapped because there was no space for it.

[adb968008]

14 hours ago, PenrithBeacon said:

Perhaps because it had no relevance in the UK? 

Perhaps it was out of gauge for most lines in the UK.

Still could have been an interesting museum piece.

Edited July 8, 2021 by adb968008

[Gordon A]

15 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

Thats the one. Scrapped because it didn't boil water.

What a shame. It would have been an interesting addition to an industrial based line.

 

Gordon A

[Mike_Walker]

54 minutes ago, adb968008 said:

Perhaps it was out of gauge for most lines in the UK.

Still could have been an interesting museum piece.

Not sure it would have been out of gauge.  It was a GE 45 Ton which, despite its name, was was quite a bit smaller than the 44 Ton model from the same stable.  A large number of 45 Ton locos were supplied to the US military for overseas use.

[PhilJ W]

5 hours ago, adb968008 said:

Perhaps it was out of gauge for most lines in the UK.

Still could have been an interesting museum piece.

 

4 hours ago, Mike_Walker said:

Not sure it would have been out of gauge.  It was a GE 45 Ton which, despite its name, was was quite a bit smaller than the 44 Ton model from the same stable.  A large number of 45 Ton locos were supplied to the US military for overseas use.

It operated on BR metals and was smaller than the Alco's. Its a great pity that one of the centre cab Whitcombe locomotives from Longmore wasn't saved but unfortunately they were scrapped more than fifty years ago. This was before diesel locomotive preservation started in earnest. They were scrapped due to lack of spares to keep them going, indeed one was used as a 'Christmas tree' to keep the other going. 

Edited July 8, 2021 by PhilJ W

[Johann Marsbar]

One of the Dutch Rail Museums has obtained a Whitcomb of that type from the USA in the past few years (2017).

Old thread on RYPN about it....

http://www.rypn.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=41241&hilit

[PhilJ W]

The Italian railways were operating Whitcombe locomotives until about ten years ago. They had been re-engined twice, the second time with a single engine giving a similar horsepower to the original pair of Waukesha units (700 HP in total) the other engine compartment carrying an exhaust scrubber. 

[PhilJ W]

15 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

 

It operated on BR metals and was smaller than the Alco's. Its a great pity that one of the centre cab Whitcombe locomotives from Longmore wasn't saved but unfortunately they were scrapped more than fifty years ago. This was before diesel locomotive preservation started in earnest. They were scrapped due to lack of spares to keep them going, indeed one was used as a 'Christmas tree' to keep the other going. 

 

13 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

The Italian railways were operating Whitcombe locomotives until about ten years ago. They had been re-engined twice, the second time with a single engine giving a similar horsepower to the original pair of Waukesha units (700 HP in total) the other engine compartment carrying an exhaust scrubber. 

Just a thought, the Whitcombe locomotives had two Waukesha engines of 350HP each and it was lack of spares that led to their withdrawal. If they had survived into preservation where would you find a suitable replacement engine/generator.

 

[PhilJ W]

More about the Whitcomb locomotives here.

http://www.robertsarmory.com/whitcomb.htm

[Marshall5]

The photo of the "small Whitcomb" in the above article actually shows a WW1 era 60cm gauge Baldwin tractor.

Ray.