APOLLO Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Looks like they are passing through Mirfield judging by the signals. Yes I used some Bachmann HO American searchlight signals around the main station, though they show only red or yellow or green, unlike the myriad of combinations around Mirfield !! (I remember those, always a must see on the Peak hauled Liverpool Newcastle back in the late 60's. Hornby cartics run well, must be the weight. 8 x twin units is a fair load even for a Heljan Brush 4 (The one in the photo is a Lima ). Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 23, 2016 Having duly done a bit of WTT consulting (among those that live in our dining room) I reckon it is what was shown in the 1967-68 Winter WTT as 3V15 09.40 SX Dagenham Dock to Severn Tunnel Jcn. This was the only Class 3 train coming over Acton Wells at that date (although it could possibly be a special - but I doubt it). I can't find it in the 1966-67 Section PA WTT which seems to indicate that it didn't start running as a WTT train until sometime in 1967 although it might possibly have run on a Special Traffic basis before then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Just found this thread, but to my eyes the load looks like a mix of Cortina's and Grannada's. Keith HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Happy Ford days! I had a 1974 Mustang ll and loved it - most people didn't! Mine had 120K when I traded it in 1997 for my Lincoln Mk 8 and never gave any problems. I paid just over $3000 new and even got $1000 back when we turned it in. A bit underpowered with the 2.3 engine going up hills with the A/C turned on but saved us a lot of money during the fuel crisis of the time. . My first manual transmission for ages, so it was a bit of fun to drive but certainly no hot rod! Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 One of the odd things about the Mustang II, compared to the contemporary Mk.III Cortina, was that it was 7 inches longer overall, but had a wheelbase 5 inches shorter! Unsurprisingly the rear seats in the Mustang II are pretty snug (I know from personal experience). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 G'day Gents Had a 'M' reg 2 ltr Cortina, as a mini cab in the mid/late 70s, my cam only lasted a couple of months, with that amount of usage, so had a racing cam and roller rockers fitted, never went again, done over 100,000 miles in a couple of years, but used to change the brake pads every six weeks. manna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 29, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 29, 2016 The cams on the early pinto engines weren't the best, not quite as bad as early Astra ones but not good Due to poor lubrication in part The separate oil pipe that sprayed oil on the cam lobes got easily blocked. Result: dry bearing surface and rapid wear. Make sure the oil was changed regularly and the pipe wasn't blocked and the cams lasted well. I bought a low mileage 15 month old Mark 3 2000GXL. It wasn't bad by the standards of the day. (Better than a Lancia Beta and most BL cars!) First Cam went in less that 20K, Second was good as new after another 80K when I got rid of the car. Didn't rust as quick as the contemporary Vauxhalls. The Good Year Grand Prix tyres originally fitted were good in the dry and totally U/S in the wet! Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yardman Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 The Cortina's are loaded on Carflats. These were built from redundant coach underframes by BR. Oxford Rail are supposed to be bringing these out sometime in the future. As the proptype varied quite considerably, we will have to wait and see what this model looks like. The lead vehicle in the photgraph looks like an ex-LNER type judging by the bogies. Attached is a photo of one of a batch of ten I made in the late 60's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
divibandit Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I have 8 Hornby Cartics loaded with - Ford Anglias !!! Mate had a beat up old anglia with a nice view of the tarmac under the footwell !! To the tune of "Valencia" we sang "Ford Anglia, your on the boil your leaking oil the very thought of you is tragic" !!!. Happy days Brit15 Hi Brit, I beefed mine up with a Base Toys mk1 Cortina and a 107E from Pocketbond and Oxford's mk3 Zephyr. I'm hoping to get a Classic from R.Parker... I've got Consul/Granadas and mk3 Cortinas for a 70s version too...and a Trackside Mk1 Escort. Better not mention that I've also got 3 Minix transporters full of BMC cars,..(MGs, Morris, Wolseley, Austin and several Minis) Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 The Ford Classic is too early for use with Cartic-4s, at least for new from factory deliveries, being superceded by the Ford Corsair in late 1963. The Corsair was in the MINIX range though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Yes the Hornby Cartic only came with 8 Anglias for some reason. When they first came out they came with 16 MINIX cars (which could include Ford Anglias too). I'd guess though that 16 plastic MINIX cars weighed less than 8 Oxford Diecast ones. For and early '70s Ford train you could mix Corgi Trackside Mk.I Escorts with Oxford Diecast Mk.III Cortinas & Mk.I Granadas. The correct amount for a Cartic is 6 cars per section. Triang actually put to many cars on it in the 60's and it possibly had more to do with the price that the later Hornby ones were 4 cars short. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I'd quite forgotten that the original Mustang was a mid-size (by American standards) economy car .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 The correct amount for a Cartic is 6 cars per section. Triang actually put to many cars on it in the 60's and it possibly had more to do with the price that the later Hornby ones were 4 cars short. This official from the early days has 7 cars of Fords, 4 Anglia on the bottom and 3 Cortina (I think, no expert) on top. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcartic4/ea750b60 This Motorail which is still being loaded, has 6 with room for another small car - mini on the bottom. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcartic4/e1dfdc6ab * It is only as cars got larger that 6 would have been usual http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcartic4/e32d01ba5 Paul * Recently I saw an original mini alongside the new version. The new one is huge in comparison! We were all smaller then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Recently I saw an original mini alongside the new version. The new one is huge in comparison! We were all smaller then The latest MINI Clubman is bigger than a Maxi! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 This official from the early days has 7 cars of Fords, 4 Anglia on the bottom and 3 Cortina (I think, no expert) on top. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcartic4/ea750b60 You also have to bear in mind that the 2 middle sections of a Cartic are smaller than the 2 ends, as your pic bares witness to them only having 6 cars on them. Of course there will be variations on how many cars one could get on them with as you point out relating to size but I was thinking more of Motor Rail services where the norm would be 6 (or that was what I read years ago), whereas the Ford pics predate that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 You also have to bear in mind that the 2 middle sections of a Cartic are smaller than the 2 ends, as your pic bares witness to them only having 6 cars on them. Of course there will be variations on how many cars one could get on them with as you point out relating to size but I was thinking more of Motor Rail services where the norm would be 6 (or that was what I read years ago), whereas the Ford pics predate that. But the main use of Cartics was moving newly built cars for distribution and they crammed as many as possible onto these trains - if you look at my various Cartic collections there are a number of photos with 4 cars on the lower deck, admittedly not when the cars are larger. The rare use of Cartics for Motorail may well have worked to 6 cars per wagon for reservation purposes. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted September 18, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2016 One of the odd things about the Mustang II, compared to the contemporary Mk.III Cortina, was that it was 7 inches longer overall, but had a wheelbase 5 inches shorter! Unsurprisingly the rear seats in the Mustang II are pretty snug (I know from personal experience). A correct use of the word contemporary. So rare! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 But the main use of Cartics was moving newly built cars for distribution and they crammed as many as possible onto these trains - if you look at my various Cartic collections there are a number of photos with 4 cars on the lower deck, admittedly not when the cars are larger. The rare use of Cartics for Motorail may well have worked to 6 cars per wagon for reservation purposes. Paul New cars are not treated as well as ones owned by individual people when moving them Just look how they cram them onto road going transporters as well. Not many new cars actually get sold without some body repair work having been done. I must thank you for all the great photos you have on your site and for sharing them with us. Enjoyed looking through them over the years, so thanks Paul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted September 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2016 The Cortina's are loaded on Carflats. These were built from redundant coach underframes by BR. Oxford Rail are supposed to be bringing these out sometime in the future. As the proptype varied quite considerably, we will have to wait and see what this model looks like. The lead vehicle in the photgraph looks like an ex-LNER type judging by the bogies. Attached is a photo of one of a batch of ten I made in the late 60's. First thing I spotted was the Gresley bogies. Looks as though NGS need to add another variant to their forthcoming release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 The NGS model is based on a BR underframe Carflat which didn't have Gresely bogies. As far as I know only a few Mk.1 restaurant cars were ever fitted with Gresley bogies and I'm pretty sure they were not underframes that ever got converted into Carflats. Some Gresley and Thompson underframes were used under some other diagrams of Carflats, but they would be a different length (60 ft or 61' 6") and diagrams to the NGS model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.