gismorail Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 Sorry for my Pics above, I thought you were doing O Gauge, and I don't know why, I've seen CE 3 or 4 times now, and we've discussed other aspects of it several times, it must be my age mate. Have a good day at Stafford. Hayho Andy .....got you confused again ..... your pictures of the 0 gauge garage were most welcome .....hope your feeling relaxed and taking it easy......sorry you won't be at Stafford but I'm happy to see your being sensible ..... Sorry for my Pics above, I thought you were doing O Gauge, and I don't know why, I've seen CE 3 or 4 times now, and we've discussed other aspects of it several times, it must be my age mate. Have a good day at Stafford. Hayho Andy .....got you confused again ..... your pictures of the 0 gauge garage were most welcome .....hope your feeling relaxed and taking it easy......sorry you won't be at Stafford but I'm happy to see your being sensible ..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 Many thanks for all the interest on this current thread it is most encouraging. Progress has been achieved today as the garage building is more or less completed as far as basic construction is concerned, it now requires extra details and weathering which will be done once the surrounding scenic's are undertaken. I found a set of Dapol petrol pumps in my odd and ends box .....(such an important part of the modellers armoury).... will still have a good look around the Stafford Show on Saturday but it gives an impression of what the general scene will look like. For the paint finish on the basic walls and roof areas I have used Sandtex masonry paint (smooth type) which can be bought in sample pots from most of the DIY stores. Past experience has proven this to be an excellent coating for buildings as it can firstly be used as a filler for the smaller gaps in joins etc and secondly it gives a good key for weathering powers etc. The thatched roof on the cottage will have a few layers of Green scene dried grass which should make a better finish than the basic plastic Airfix finish. .... 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Very, very nice Martin, great choice of buildings with space between them which really give the rural look. Super. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedman Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 It's good to see Chumley End progressing again! It promises to be a great layout. Trev Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Many thanks for all the interest on this current thread it is most encouraging. Progress has been achieved today as the garage building is more or less completed as far as basic construction is concerned, it now requires extra details and weathering which will be done once the surrounding scenic's are undertaken. Garage 03 001 (300x246).jpg Garage 03 002 (300x207).jpg Garage 03 004 (300x179).jpg Garage 03 006 (300x223).jpg Garage 03 007 (223x300).jpg Garage 03 005 (300x278).jpg I found a set of Dapol petrol pumps in my odd and ends box .....(such an important part of the modellers armoury).... will still have a good look around the Stafford Show on Saturday but it gives an impression of what the general scene will look like. For the paint finish on the basic walls and roof areas I have used Sandtex masonry paint (smooth type) which can be bought in sample pots from most of the DIY stores. Past experience has proven this to be an excellent coating for buildings as it can firstly be used as a filler for the smaller gaps in joins etc and secondly it gives a good key for weathering powers etc. The thatched roof on the cottage will have a few layers of Green scene dried grass which should make a better finish than the basic plastic Airfix finish. .... That scene reminds me of the two Petrol Stations in Bala, One on the Pavement and one on the corner at the West end of the Town. Coming on really well Martin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 That scene reminds me of the two Petrol Stations in Bala, One on the Pavement and one on the corner at the West end of the Town. Coming on really well Martin. And I think one of them is still an Ovlov specialist!!! Jinty 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) Evening all not posted a lot since early Feb been struggling to make the thatched cottage roof anywhere near convincing to be honest. I spent quite some time trying different materials to produce a thatched effect , started with bristles from various brushes, string and even hanging basket liners but just wasn't happy with the general effect, apart from the fact that I was getting fed up with gluing my fingers together then having to scrape the mess off the roof at the end of each attempt. I'm quite an avid fan of a guy called Ken Patterson who produces an American Railroad series on youtube its called 'Whats neat this week in railroading' and it was whilst I was watching this a found out how the Yanks model thatched roofs ......so simple I kicked myself .... saw dust and PVA glue which covered the whole roof area in about five minutes. Front view of the garage And the rear view. Now I would not claim that its a perfect finish but once I have weathered and toned down the basic colour I reckon it'll it won't be far off a reasonable representation .... Edited February 27, 2018 by gismorail 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Morning Martin, I thought you'd been very quiet mate, not many Thatches in Wales to look at for comparisons, but I recon that's a splendid job. I've seen it done with Human Hair, but mine is a bit wayward now, so I couldn't offer any, hahah. The Layout is coming on well, and I'm looking forward to seeing some movement again soon. All the best. Andy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedman Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Hi Martin. I agree with Andy, it's looking good. Glad to have you back posting. Hope you're feeling better than you were at Stafford. Trevor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 Thanks Andy & Trevor agree with you both need to push on with this project, still awaiting the spring to get some greenery into the country side so I can take some photo's for the back scenes but it's all a bit white at the moment. Have had to leave the car down in the village tonight as the lane up to the cottage is sheer ice and it could well snow some more tonight and a 4am start is needed tomorrow 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) Thanks Andy & Trevor agree with you both need to push on with this project, still awaiting the spring to get some greenery into the country side so I can take some photo's for the back scenes but it's all a bit white at the moment. Have had to leave the car down in the village tonight as the lane up to the cottage is sheer ice and it could well snow some more tonight and a 4am start is needed tomorrow Is there 2 x 4 o'clocks?, I'm normally well under the Duvet at that time of day, and the thoughts of walking down that hill from your gaff to the Village in the Snow and Ice would make me think of retirement, hahah. Hope the Car started and you got to work O.K. I wouldn't want to be out in an HGV in these conditions mate. All the best. Edited February 28, 2018 by Andrew P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Is there 2 x 4 o'clocks?, I'm normally well under the Duvet at that time of day, and the thoughts of walking down that hill from your gaff to the Village in the Snow and Ice would make me think of retirement, hahah. Hope the Car started and you got to work O.K. I wouldn't want to be out in an HGV in these conditions mate. All the best. Thanks Andy ...... this snow is silly soft stuff ...said Thomas It was a beautiful morning at 4am, the moon was shining and casting shadows across the valley and the reflection from the snow made it almost like daylight .... best part of the day me thinks 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 I think it was Iain Rice who once wrote in one of his excellent publications that modelling buildings makes time disappear and he was very correct in this statement. It does make one realise that the 'plant a building' option that we have today is good value for money when one considers the costs involved in personal time. There are however times when building a structure from scratch is 'not only' the way to go but it also adds a certain amount of personal character into a model railway layout. One of the main reasons that the Cheshire Lines Committee put forward the proposals for the branch line from Mouldsworth to the Tarporley area was to provide a reliable transport system for the agricultural community of the area where there were several large estate farms owned by rich and influential land owners. It is for this reason that the agricultural siding area on Chumley End was provided with a goods storage shed as well as a Provendor store so I have scratch built a suitable Goods Shed to complement the busy scene that will give an area of operational interest. As I am modelling the late 1950's / early 1960's the use of this particular building has now been taken over by 'Chas Jones Agricultural Merchants ' of Chester who found a need to extend his family business into the heart of the Cheshire countryside. The main structure has been constructed from 2mm hardboard which is generally used for the backing of picture frames and can be purchased online. All window and door openings are marked and cut out using a sharp Stanley knife and then faced with Wills dressed stone work as individual sections. The windows and door openings on the Wills stonework can then be drilled in each corner followed by careful cutting out with a craft knife from within following the openings on the hardboard structure and final filing to complete. I then used some Wills windows / door fittings and then again prior the assembling the main structure these were glued in place as well as the stone coping around the main openings. Before assembling the completed sides I sanded each wall end to a 45 degree angle using a Proxxon bench sander to make a sound join and these are then 'hot' glued together to make a strong structure. The corner coping stones were then added before fitting the roof and are again from the Wills scenic range and have been filled down to fit flush on the dressed stonework.I also took the opportunity to paint the structure at this point before any further bits were added. To add a bit of interest I have modelled the end window as 'bricked up' which would perhaps show that during the course of the buildings history the usage has changed. Again the tiled roof is from Wills Scenic series. Again in an attempt to give the building a bit of character I have modelled an extended canopy at one end which is supported by some redundant rail which over the years has more than likely been hit by various vehicles over the years . Maybe the original wooden supports have been totally demolished by a heavy handed farmer being some what over enthusiastic with his tractor The wooden beams gutters and drain pipes have been produced from the 'Plastic Strut ' range. A final shot of the new addition to Chumley End as well as a further 'ready to plant building' the Provendor store which is a Bachmann Scenicraft item which fits the scene well me thinks. Further additions and weathering will be added to the building as construction develops. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedman Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Looking good Martin. Nice to see Chumley End coming alive. Best Wishes, Trevor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 No wonder you've been quiet Martin, that is some superb modelling, well done, fantastic mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 No wonder you've been quiet Martin, that is some superb modelling, well done, fantastic mate. Thanks Andy I have enjoyed the challenge to build something different...... and just to surprise anyone following this build I've been busy today and have added the cobbles on the agricultural loading dock area Once again I have turned to the excellent range of Wills scenic finishes with the use of the cobble sheets which I feel give a good final impression. The joins between the sheets have been filled with ready mixed poly filler and the whole area has had a wash with a mixture of grey / brown acrylic paint then wiped off with kitchen roll. I am currently investigating a method of finishing the effect using a wood dye product but I need to check out a few facts first before I attempt this idea. For the sharp eyed readers who might have noticed a further development in the second photograph ............................... I must has been in a patient mood this afternoon as I have added the fencing to the Ratio cattle dock which believe me is a task that does test one's resolve ....the whole kit has not been built as per the instructions as I have constructed it to match the location and the fencing on the ramp area is still to be added during the next modelling session ......or when I feel that patience is with me 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedman Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 You're taking over the speed mantle from Andy, I think! And superb work. Trevor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Fantastic quality of workmanship Martin, the whole scene is really coming together now and looks superb mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 Well I have made a big step forward today and have added some back scene which to be honest was not in my original plans as I was planning to wait for the spring time and go and photograph around the area being modelled. There have been two main reasons for my change of attack , firstly I have done some research into what is involved in the process of producing a back scene by photographic means and have come to the conclusion that it's not for me or to be honest beyond my computer skills the second reason was the lack of back scene was slowing the progress of the build as I needed to be able to visualise the whole scene and the depth of field that could be achieved . I have used the gaugemaster open countryside back ground scene in the large size The original back scene has been glued on to card and the top of the landscape cut away from the sky and then pasted onto my painted sky giving a bit a perspective It does give the mill buildings a setting which I am pleased about I have found a suitable building to add to the end of the alleyway as suggested by Kevin of Little Muddle fame. I have certainly got some great scenic ideas from his excellent modelling 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Well I have made a big step forward today and have added some back scene which to be honest was not in my original plans as I was planning to wait for the spring time and go and photograph around the area being modelled. There have been two main reasons for my change of attack , firstly I have done some research into what is involved in the process of producing a back scene by photographic means and have come to the conclusion that it's not for me or to be honest beyond my computer skills the second reason was the lack of back scene was slowing the progress of the build as I needed to be able to visualise the whole scene and the depth of field that could be achieved . Backscene 01 001 (600x325).jpg I have used the gaugemaster open countryside back ground scene in the large size Backscene 01 005 (600x355).jpg Backscene 01 004 (600x426).jpg The original back scene has been glued on to card and the top of the landscape cut away from the sky and then pasted onto my painted sky giving a bit a perspective Backscene 01 002 (600x432).jpg It does give the mill buildings a setting which I am pleased about Backscene 01 003 (431x600).jpg I have found a suitable building to add to the end of the alleyway as suggested by Kevin of Little Muddle fame. I have certainly got some great scenic ideas from his excellent modelling Love that Backscene Martin, it's all blending in so well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 Thanks Andy really made up with progress today adding a back scene does bring the whole scene to life. To be honest I was really struggling to get my head round what I could achieve in the space along the back of the layout. I knew it was going to be an important area as it was going to give the whole scene real depth of field which is very much the idea of the original plan as designed by Iain Rice. I was also mindful that it was going to be very difficult to add the back scene once I had added any embankments etc so I'm glad that I have achieved this important part of the scene at this stage. I will now by browsing the many excellent pictures on your layout as well as that of Kevin's Little Muddle as well as other contributors on RM Web. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedman Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Brilliant, Martin. The backscene really sets it off. Love it. Trevor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) Looking good and the backscene brings it all together. As you will know I am a great fan of working all parts of a model railway as one unified item, each supporting the other. I think you are well on the why to achieving that with what I have seen here. Thanks for the kind words. Now for the trees!!!! Keep posting....... Edited March 16, 2018 by KNP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 Brilliant, Martin. The backscene really sets it off. Love it. Trevor Thanks Trevor for you kind comments trust all is well speak soon. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 Looking good and the backscene brings it all together. As you will know I am a great fan of working all parts of a model railway as one unified item, each supporting the other. I think you are well on the why to achieving that with what I have seen here. Thanks for the kind words. Now for the trees!!!! Keep posting....... Thanks Kevin for your kind words.... praise indeed from the master of scenic modelling. The trees will be the main challenge and in my mind will made or break the whole scenic success of Chumley End. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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