Theakerr Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Would anyone know if there is a list of the paint codes (RAL, RLM, etc) used by Bachmann. Living in the GWN I do not have access to the various UK model paint companies but I can get Vallejo, Tamiya and some Humbrol. At this time I am specifically interested in the green that Bachmann have used on their latest all green Class 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Would anyone know if there is a list of the paint codes (RAL, RLM, etc) used by Bachmann. Living in the GWN I do not have access to the various UK model paint companies but I can get Vallejo, Tamiya and some Humbrol. At this time I am specifically interested in the green that Bachmann have used on their latest all green Class 37 Have you contacted Bachmann UK using http://www.Bachmann.co.uk/contact.php ? I've always received courteous and helpful responses from them. The paint colours are typically specified on the drawing showing the decoration (painting, lining and numbering) details, which is approved by the client commissioning the manufacturing - in this instance Bachmann UK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theakerr Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Thks for the suggestion. Have just sent an e-mail to Bachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theakerr Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Sent an e-mail to Bachmann last night, had a reply in my in-box this am. What fantastic customer service. another well known manufacturer could take a lesson. Anyway, bottom line is Bachmann do not list a colour code for the green because they match the colour code to a sample swatch that they have in China. Not sure what the next step is, probably contact Railmatch or Phoenix and see if we can work something out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 It will be a case of trial and error, and probably looking quite wide at available paints. Tamiya Japanese Army Green was good match for Airfix GW Green. Pity no model paint manufacturer has come up with a paint matching service like Dulux have in many DIY stores. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2017 It will be a case of trial and error, and probably looking quite wide at available paints. Tamiya Japanese Army Green was good match for Airfix GW Green. Pity no model paint manufacturer has come up with a paint matching service like Dulux have in many DIY stores. maybe take a Bachmann model to the DIY store then ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamperman36 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Its probably better to try getting car paint as it is closer to the model paints than the paint available from the DIY stores. You may be able to get a specialist car paint shop to match the paint on the model if you took it with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha230 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Its probably better to try getting car paint as it is closer to the model paints than the paint available from the DIY stores. You may be able to get a specialist car paint shop to match the paint on the model if you took it with you. HMG https://www.hmgpaint.com/ paints in Collyhurst Manchester can produce paint matched to a model, I had Northern rail, dark blue, purple and grey enamel paint made up by them, I just took a oo gauge Bachmann Northern rail class 150 into them left it with them a few days and it was done, I asked them to make it with the same sheen as the Bachmann model, they have a special piece of equipment to do this, you can also have the paint made in other types if your not keen on enamel paints, and the good thing is its not expensive either, what you have to think about is most car paint suppliers only supply cellulose paint which would attack plastic and they also work from colour swatches, I don't know of any car paint suppliers that can do enamel paints. You would need to find a car paint supplier that has a photospectrometer that would be used to match paint to a sample. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha230 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Ps I think the machine is called a spectrophotometer, they would understand what your asking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 HMG https://www.hmgpaint.com/ paints in Collyhurst Manchester can produce paint matched to a model, I had Northern rail, dark blue, purple and grey enamel paint made up by them, I just took a oo gauge Bachmann Northern rail class 150 into them left it with them a few days and it was done, I asked them to make it with the same sheen as the Bachmann model, they have a special piece of equipment to do this, you can also have the paint made in other types if your not keen on enamel paints, and the good thing is its not expensive either, what you have to think about is most car paint suppliers only supply cellulose paint which would attack plastic and they also work from colour swatches, I don't know of any car paint suppliers that can do enamel paints. You would need to find a car paint supplier that has a photospectrometer that would be used to match paint to a sample. Don't know the first thing about cars but I think you may be a little out of date talking about cellulose paints as the stuff that comes in rattle cans - at least - tends to be acrylic nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 A quick google shows spectrophotometers to be £1600 upwards. Obviously not something any individual modeller would readily buy but not beyond the finances of magazine publishers. Would make reviews a lot more useful if they gave the RGB or whatever of the colours used on a model. For anyone trying to match colours with a strange colour code this site is useful www.perbang.dk (honest its not a dodgy link despite what it might imply to someone) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha230 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Don't know the first thing about cars but I think you may be a little out of date talking about cellulose paints as the stuff that comes in rattle cans - at least - tends to be acrylic nowadays. Car paint is usually 2k 2 pack that a hardener is added to, the stuff in cans is usually acrylic paint, but the paint most car paint suppliers use is still cellulose that is supplied in a tin as 2k would be no good to use on models as once the hardener is added to the paint it would turn solid in the tin, and car paint suppliers don't sell enamel paints. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theakerr Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 I have experimented with Tamiya Dark Green XF-26 with just a smidgen of Tamiya Matt black added. The match is not bad especially when washed with a weathering wash. The problem is getting the smidgen right because one cannot confirm the colour until it has dried. I also just picked up Vallejo Light green 71-022 and Bronze Green 70-897 which looked pretty close when I took the shell in. Will be testing it on the inside of the shell in the next couple of days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Are you trying to get an exact match for touch-up purposes or just near enough for a re-paint? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theakerr Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 Sorry Jeff, Just realised i had not responded to your question. Basically I want as close a match as possible. I am trying to eliminate the yellow ends on a Deltic and a Type 4 but I want the loco to be in very clean condition as they were when they were first introduced on the ECML. FYI I found that it is all but impossible to properly strip the yellow of a green end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 A quick google shows spectrophotometers to be £1600 upwards. Obviously not something any individual modeller would readily buy but not beyond the finances of magazine publishers. Would make reviews a lot more useful if they gave the RGB or whatever of the colours used on a model. For anyone trying to match colours with a strange colour code this site is useful www.perbang.dk (honest its not a dodgy link despite what it might imply to someone) There is one than one type of 'RGB' and that is only relevant to visual displays; CMYK is used for printers. There are various British Standard specifications together with Pantone (most commonly used in our type of manufacturing), various colour wheels and so on that provide the correct colour matching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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