RMweb Gold Corbs Posted June 20, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 20, 2020 That is absolutely gorgeous and a stroke of genius. The use of household items is brilliant. 1 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted June 20, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Corbs said: That is absolutely gorgeous and a stroke of genius. The use of household items is brilliant. Totally agree, to me it's the whole point. Spending £50 improving a £10 bargain box loco would completely defeat the object. This is real craftsmanship. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullygrainey Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 On 20/06/2020 at 06:51, BenNewland said: Untitled by Ben Newland, on Flickr Funny looking beast, but I'm happy with it. Ben I like everything about this loco! 10 out of 10 for ingenuity and craftsmanship. Thanks for showing us how you did it. Alan 1 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 On 19/06/2020 at 12:19, Sophia NSE said: I like that a lot, though I'd be tempted to give it one of Wainwright's pagoda cabs for extra Southernness I could try it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosiesBoss Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 G'day, all, Here's something else rebuilt from a Hornby L&Y pug - a GWR Peckett: Some details of construction may be found here: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/155869-gwr-968-peckett-0-4-0st/ Rebuilding can be so enjoyable! Regards, Rob 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 14 hours ago, LNWR18901910 said: I could try it. I'm thinking a Wainwright design reboilered by Maunsell for a bit more grunt. It should be fun comparing what we come up with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 14 hours ago, RosiesBoss said: G'day, all, Here's something else rebuilt from a Hornby L&Y pug - a GWR Peckett: Some details of construction may be found here: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/155869-gwr-968-peckett-0-4-0st/ Rebuilding can be so enjoyable! Regards, Rob I know, right? Nice take on one of the GWR "long Pecketts". Great work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenNewland Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Thanks guys, that is really kind of you. If I do something else with a pug, I will post it here for sure. In the mean time I will get back to browsing other peoples lovely bashes, storing ideas for another day! Thanks, Ben 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMay Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 On 19/06/2020 at 03:29, Captain Pugbash said: actually this doesnt look much better, any chassis suggestions? On 19/06/2020 at 11:00, Mountain Goat said: I think the cab looks too small and needs more length to it. If the cab was lengthened a little and the smokebox or the boiler reduced a bit... Chassis can be shortened... But what about a class 03 chassis with reduced con rods so the con rods only cover the wheels. Would it look more convincing? I suggested the 04 or an 04 as the wheels are closer together. One needs a short wheelbase 0-6-0... And if that was a terrier wheelbase, it needs to be shorter still. The body may not actually need extending that much at all. The bunker definitely is undersized. Building up a bunker at the back would allow for the use of a slightly longer chassis or a shorter boiler. In the paintshop of the red 0-6-0T the boiler looks too long. I don't think the cab is as bad, but probably could do with more height (if possible within the loading gauge), and maybe a little more length. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 23, 2020 On 21/06/2020 at 09:31, Tullygrainey said: I like everything about this loco! 10 out of 10 for ingenuity and craftsmanship. Thanks for showing us how you did it. Alan I agree. You've captured the feel of the small 12" Barclay perfectly. Possibly the best use of a can of Fosters I've ever seen! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted June 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 23, 2020 8 hours ago, TonyMay said: The bunker definitely is undersized. Building up a bunker at the back would allow for the use of a slightly longer chassis or a shorter boiler. In the paintshop of the red 0-6-0T the boiler looks too long. I don't think the cab is as bad, but probably could do with more height (if possible within the loading gauge), and maybe a little more length. May I suggest extending the cab & bunker, and making it into an 0-6-2. The bunker, specifically. Have fun! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 16 hours ago, tomparryharry said: May I suggest extending the cab & bunker, and making it into an 0-6-2. The bunker, specifically. Have fun! Hmm I'm not sure if it's just the cab and bunker. To be honest the boiler looks to long for the firebox. A fireman would have trouble keeping any steam in that. Sorry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted June 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Londontram said: Hmm I'm not sure if it's just the cab and bunker. To be honest the boiler looks to long for the firebox. A fireman would have trouble keeping any steam in that. Sorry No need to be sorry. The picture seems to have stretched the loco somewhat. Not having a bunker is a PITA. From my perspective, it's all out of proportion. However, the Belpaire firebox & safety valve besr some resemblance to a Barry Railway L class 0-6-4. The only non-bunkered 0-6-0 I can think of, is the ex-Metropolitan Railway locos, acquired by the Taff Vale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) Looking at the picture I think the 'Jinty' chassis is a bit of a red herring. I think the wheel diameter and wheelbase are far too big for this loco which has stretched its proportions. What about an Austerity chassis - the body could be shortened then and look more in proportion? Edited June 24, 2020 by Barclay 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted June 24, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) I'll say it again - the two 'donor' images are not the same scale! It's like putting an N gauge body on a OO gauge chassis. So any photoshopping will be pointless until they are the same scale to begin with. Based on my photo of the Dowlais body on the Terrier chassis, it's more like this kind of relative scale: Edited June 24, 2020 by Corbs 18 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pugbash Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Thanks for all the help! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neil Posted June 24, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24, 2020 That's much better Corbs. Still not a looker though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Prepare to meet your doom! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) Much more in proportion. Edited June 24, 2020 by Londontram Add content Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sophia NSE said: Prepare to meet your doom! Now you say that but I still get a pang of guilt just before starting to chop a loco. Anyway the new design is much better Edited June 24, 2020 by Londontram New content 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 A few minutes work and we have this! 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackRoomBoffin Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Sophia NSE said: A few minutes work and we have this! ...research at Ashford reveals an unauthorised Surtees / Clayton proposal for shunting in the Kentish coalfield... the 'T1' class... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 minute ago, BackRoomBoffin said: ...research at Ashford reveals an unauthorised Surtees / Clayton proposal for shunting in the Kentish coalfield... the 'T1' class... Recabbed by Wainwright and reboilered by Maunsell. I like your T1 class name for it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Should make it a 2-8-4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackRoomBoffin Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Sophia NSE said: Recabbed by Wainwright and reboilered by Maunsell. I like your T1 class name for it! At the risk of derailing a fine thread with hairsplitting - Surtees was Wainwright's draughtsman and basically responsible for the 'Wainwright' cab (and, allegedly, everything else). He very briefly overlapped at Ashford in 1913/1914 after Wainwright's retirement with Maunsell and his assistants Pearson (from the GWR) and Clayton (from the Midland). Clayton is allegedly responsible for almost everything from the Maunsell era that has parallel boiler and Belpairefirebox (particularly the rebuilds of the Ds and Es, and the L1s). He was also the brains behind the S&D 2-8-0s. So I was assuming that, to design your loco, Surtees took the new boy out for a pint when Maunsell was talking to the rest of the staff about taper boiler passenger tanks. Maybe the WKR got hold of the beermats after? The actual response to heavy shunting in Kent during WW1 was to a) put a saddle tank on a C class and b) hire all kinds of locos from all over during the war. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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