KNP Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 Colin Good idea as it does seem a bit light so I'll add some inside the cab. Did try to reply to your PM but it didn't go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) That will make a fortune on e bay spares! lol Good idea except I have just realised I wouldn't have a guards van at the end of it!!!! Edited December 27, 2017 by KNP 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWsTrains Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Colin Good idea as it does seem a bit light so I'll add some inside the cab. Did try to reply to your PM but it didn't go? Kevin, I deleted the PM about the Toad when I realised yours was from Oxford. If you have my link that should still be relevant WRT the weight locations. I like the low profile lead wheel weights that we can still get here in Aus from older vehicles but the Fe ones will do, just can't cut them to fit. Will repeat PM with additions Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Limpley Stoker Posted December 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2017 Colin Good idea as it does seem a bit light so I'll add some inside the cab. Did try to reply to your PM but it didn't go? Perhaps a few white metal figures could give you enough weight- a couple of off- duty guards getting a lift home huddled around the stove with a mug of tea laced with scotch to see the new year in...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 Perhaps a few white metal figures could give you enough weight- a couple of off- duty guards getting a lift home huddled around the stove with a mug of tea laced with scotch to see the new year in...... Good idea. I must say I was quite surprised how much weight was added to the autocoach with 11 people so any spare might be 'chucked' in there!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) Guards van update. Belated discovery that the lug I referred to (red arrow) where in fact the ends of the buffer stock and they do come out - see green arrow. When removed they allow the body just to lift off with a bit of jingling.... Mine where held in place with paint and I can only assume that it was still wet when they where fitted! It wasn't till I was weathering one when it moved I realised that they hadn't been glued. A bit of pushing with a flat blade screwdriver on the inside of the body and they popped out. Edited March 16 by KNP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted December 29, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) A quick couple of pictures to show the finished (for now!) Oxford Guards Van. Just waiting for the coupling loop to be fitted and then ready for action! Edited March 16 by KNP 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 A quick couples of pictures to show the finished (for now!) Oxford Guards Van. 1138.JPG 1139.JPG Just waiting for the coupling loop to be fitted and then ready for action! Very nice Kevin, I do like the Roof streaking, superb mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) Very nice Kevin, I do like the Roof streaking, superb mate. Thanks. I've just realised I've forgotten the handrails..........................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited December 30, 2017 by KNP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted December 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2017 I was going to say, where are the handrails? Other than that, looking very smart. Too busy writing for BRM again by the looks of things. Another 2 articles this month? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) There you go..... All sorted, a bit of dirty black wash added at fixing points (other side is done as well, just in case you thought I was cheating...!!!!) Edited March 16 by KNP 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted December 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2017 Kevin that middle window on the back is wrong it should be a door to access the lamp bracket Oxford scanned the AA 3 at Didcot with a double glazed unit in the aperture staff members kip in it over the week-ends and they must have tried to make it snug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) On 29/12/2017 at 15:21, 81C said: Kevin that middle window on the back is wrong it should be a door to access the lamp bracket Oxford scanned the AA 3 at Didcot with a double glazed unit in the aperture staff members kip in it over the week-ends and they must have tried to make it snug. Well that is interesting as when I was working on it I thought it looked odd and a little 'modern' along with the door at the other end.....! The frame seemed heavy. Like this..... I assume the door opened inwards and was solid planking? Edited March 16 by KNP 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted December 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) The opening window in the end is referred to as a lamp hatch, it's purpose being to allow the guard access to the rear lamp bracket for when the van was running balcony leading, which was about half the time. A window is correct for this early van, but not this window; later types had the opening boarded or planked in, but it could still be opened. The side windows opened inwards as well, in frames swinging towards the van sides where they could be hooked back. which must have been welcome on hot days and a source of draughts the rest of the time. The door from the balcony opens inwards IIRC, and can be hooked back to stop it swinging about and banging shut on the guard's fingers. The side windows at the balcony end are fixed and cannot be opened. The Oxford is a classic example of taking the condition of a preserved van as being correct for a van in service, details of which may have changed over time anyway. GW toads were solidly built and lasted a long time; detail variations are rife. Edited December 29, 2017 by The Johnster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold sjrixon Posted December 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2017 Could you provide some hints and tips on how you weathered it? Or is it too late now it's back together? Looking good and looking forward to seeing how you chop out the double glazed window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted December 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2017 If extra weight is required there is some room in the internal floor under the sand hoppers and bench seat where you can hide some off cuts of roofing lead or liquid lead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PeterBB Posted December 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 30, 2017 Kevin, obviously do not visit as often as I should but your short article article in British Railway Modelling has led me back to it. General reaction - wow! Cheers, Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted December 30, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2017 Well after the wrong window revelation, this necessitated that the model needed to be worked on and after some thought a compromise taken in that the two outside windows will remain the current height until I find the motivation to reduce them in height by one plank whilst removing the centre window and forming a lamp door.... I am working on the assumption it looks right because the middle one is now panelled and with the glazing bars fitted to the other two windows from a distance it looks OK. To conceal the wide width of the door frame to the cabin door from the verandah I have applied a strip of archers rivets both sides which has reduced the impact. Here are the latest snaps whilst paint dries to the windows.... And I still haven't done the coupling loop as I got sidetracked with the window saga....! Now much happier with it. 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted December 31, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) Well the Station management decided it was time for a publicity shoot of all the motive fleet, so being a quiet Sunday morning they arranged for the steam loco's to be stabled overnight at Little Muddle engine shed. Then, around 10.30, the railcar was diverted into the goods siding for a set of pictures. The good old reliable Squadron Leader was called into service with his trusted Sopwith so at exactly 10.35 he did a low level pass of the area and took these pictures. Now there appeared to be a few surprised passengers on the railcar when it turned into the good yard. Prior to leaving Encombe a tannoy announcement was made, notices pinned around the station and in the railcar as well but you know what people are like for paying attention. There was at least one passenger who remarked that he thought the railcar needed to take on coal and water......!!!! Then Ken, of Ken Dobettar Photography, said he could do better so has arranged another shoot later today when he has collected his Hogwarts steps! whatever they are? Edited March 16 by KNP 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted December 31, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) True to his word Ken arrived and took his pictures. Well, you can see the difference in composition - the Yard Master just 'parked' the trains whilst Ken 'arranged' them. I then asked him about the 'Hogwarts steps', he just laughed and sent me a picture of them and said it would be self-explanatory.... He did remark that he was one of the few photographers that wore a parachute when on terra firma! Yes.......I can see why now! Now I really must get on with the coupling loop for the Guards van? Edited March 16 by KNP 36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeOxon Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 A nice selection of photos but being a pedant, some anachronisms bother me. A few posts ago, you mentioned your pilot using a Hasselblad - a camera that was only developed in the 1940s - and now we have Tannoy, who only started making PA systems in the early years of WW2. It's the railway that matters though Happy New Year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Superb Kevin, and a Happy New Year to you and all your Family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted December 31, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2017 True to his word Ken arrived and took his pictures. Well, you can see the difference in composition - the Yard Master just 'parked' the trains whilst Ken 'arranged' them. 1144.jpg 1143.jpg 1145.jpg 1146.jpg I then asked him about the 'Hogwarts steps', he just laughed and sent me a picture of them and said it would be self-explanatory.... He did remark that he was one of the few photographers that wore a parachute when on terra firma! IMG_3566.JPG Yes.......I can see why now! Now I really must get on with the coupling loop for the Guards van? In the new Paddington 2 film, which we watched yesterday, Paddington has a nifty retractable ladder as part of his window-cleaning gear. No spoilers, but there are a lot of trains in the second half of the film too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 In the new Paddington 2 film, which we watched yesterday, Paddington has a nifty retractable ladder as part of his window-cleaning gear. No spoilers, but there are a lot of trains in the second half of the film too. I have seen the film, twice in fact, and I know exactly what you are on about.....!!!!!! No spoilers from me either. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted January 1, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2018 Welcome to 2018........ A few left overs from yesterdays combined photoshoot And before you ask - yes, the coupling loop is progressing well on the guards van! 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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