ovbulleid Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Hi All, I've just started building a ew DCC layout after many years of just dropping trains on the tracks. I got a powercab system as I was told good things about them and I just put an 8 pin dcc concepts Zimo Z360 chip into my Dapol Sentinal, reasoning this would be a good engine to check the track with. However after putting the chip in the right way round, all I get when I start up the powercab is CAn Not Read CV. Does anyone know how I can get it working? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 18, 2017 Hi All, I've just started building a ew DCC layout after many years of just dropping trains on the tracks. I got a powercab system as I was told good things about them and I just put an 8 pin dcc concepts Zimo Z360 chip into my Dapol Sentinal, reasoning this would be a good engine to check the track with. However after putting the chip in the right way round, all I get when I start up the powercab is CAn Not Read CV. Does anyone know how I can get it working? Thanks Not a system I know, but ISTR reading that the PowerCab cannot read CVs on the main. It can read them, I think, on a programming track. Consult your manual for more, including how to set up a suitable programming track for PowerCab. Anyway, reading CVs on the main is not absolutely essential. Try setting CVs and this should work. Your decoder should, out of the box, be set to the default Address 3. Try that to confirm it will run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbyhorse Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Best advice is to install JMRI, never had any problems reading and programming chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devondynosoar118 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 So the powercab doesn't show its start up screen at all? If you have the track power output disconnected does it load the regular screen? Please check both of those first. The Powercab DOES support loco programming on the main. You can check the Sentinel better by placing it on a fully separate length of track and trying driving it, as from the factory the chip should be default set to short address 1. The powercab, despite being a little aged now, is excellent and usually reliable for CV programming, mine has worked very well on the whole. As noted this may also be a faulty decoder, they do exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Torper Posted May 18, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 18, 2017 Best advice is to install JMRI, never had any problems reading and programming chips. If you've got a Powercab you don't need JMRI. For day to day running you can read and programme quite satisfactorily using the PowerCab handset. I did go to the quite substantial trouble of getting the necessary interface, then installing and learning JMRI on an old laptop, but to be frank on my small layout I hardly ever use it. DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10000 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 If you've got a Powercab you don't need JMRI. For day to day running you can read and programme quite satisfactorily using the PowerCab handset. I did go to the quite substantial trouble of getting the necessary interface, then installing and learning JMRI on an old laptop, but to be frank on my small layout I hardly ever use it. DT I agree with this. The Powercab is more than adequate for basic CV setting. I use JMRI but only for my American sound fitted because it is much easier for coping with some of the more complex decoders. As suggested make sure you get the Powercab startup screen with the track power feeds disconnected. You should only get 'Cannot read CV' when you actual attempt to read CV either on the Programming Track option or Program on main option and that is usually a faulty decoder or dirt on the track/wheels/pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tetsudofan Posted May 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 18, 2017 Was speaking to my brother last night and he told me that he has had problems with a Zimo Mx 600 decoder purchased from Digitrains which did not respond once fitted. He changed to another brand he had and that decoder worked. He took the Zimo back to Digitrains who took another Zimo off the shelf, tested that and found that was also defective. The second Zimo taken off the shelf was checked and worked. Digitrains were astounded that they had two defective Zimo decoders........ Maybe the decoder you have is also defective. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted May 19, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2017 Is it a new decoder? If so, does the PowerCab control the loco on address 3? Do you have another loco you can test the decoder in? Did the loco work before you fitted the decoder? Do you have more success if you gently push the loco down onto the track - I've had problems in N Gauge with locos not being detected as the rail-wheel electrical connection wasn't as good as it needed to be. Happy modelling. Steven B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Might sound obvious but are the wheels/traack clean?, I've just had trouble setting a new loco and decoder up. Jumped in at the deep end and forgot to check the simplist fault! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 HI Just to be 100% clear, are you getting this can't read display when you start up the PowerCab or only when you try programming the loco/decoder?? If the former I suggest you power down the PowerCab remove loco and power up PowerCab. Does it now start correctly - Yes then the problem is with the loco/ decoder installation. No it still shows, repeat power down but remove the two wires in the rear of the panel that go to the track. Does it now show the message on power up. Yes - The PowerCab is defective somehow. No - You have a short on the track wiring/track itself. If only when using the Programming options do you have a totally separate piece of track for programming or are you using the main tracks? As suggested ensure the rail tops and loco wheels are spotlessly clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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