dibber25 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) MODEL RAIL January 2018 Issue No. 243 Publication date: 15 December 2017 All the Warley news – 8 announcements, 47 new models plus how to master great landscape modelling. Here’s what we’ve got for you this month: Opening the box: Eleven pages of news from the Warley show with exclusive Chris Nevard photography of the latest display samples of models from Dapol, DJM, Heljan, Locomotion, Rails, RevolutioN and TMC, plus progress pictures from Bachmann. Layouts and features: Mick and Daniel Lawrence have built their dream depot, Fenwick TMD, in ‘OO’ gauge. Martin Coombs’ Whiteoak Light Railway is a narrow gauge industrial waterfront in ‘O16.5’ gauge. Paul Lunn offers some track plans covering the interface between standard and narrow gauge. Workbench Chris Leigh recreates a diorama of the Ffestiniog Railway’s Tan-y-Bwlch bridge, recapturing the spirit of a model he built at age 19, 52 years ago. Cast iron, slate and autumn leaves abound. George Dent makes a great job of a Wills viaduct. Dave Lowery makes acutting. George Dent builds and lines a tunnel. Reviews: Hornby Stanier ‘Duchess’ (OO) Heljan Lynton & Barnstaple Manning Wardle 2-6-2T (OO9) Dapol GWR ‘Gloucester’ railcar (OO) Kernow MRC Bulleid diesel-electric (OO) OO Works LSWR ‘D15’ 4-4-0 (OO) Dapol LMS Class ‘3F’ 0-6-0T (O) Oxford Die-cast road-rail Landrover Regulars: Know your stuff, Show & Tell, The Club Room, Exhibition Diary, Backscene. Model Rail's first inspirational break will take place from 23-25 March. Join Chris Leigh and other members of the Model Rail team to immerse yourself in a weekend of Great Westernry including Didcot, Swindon and Pendon. More details on page 109. Edited December 11, 2017 by dibber25 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal.n Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) Really enjoyed this one, probably something to do with my interests being both Modern Image and 009 modelling. Liked the article in Fenwick TMD and Whiteoak Light Railway and as ever, the masterplan articles are amazing. Really don't appreciate the insert, it will trick people into thinking they've won anything from £50 up to £1,000,000 and will charge them for calling or trying to claim the prize they think they have 'won.' While really the smallprint tells them over 60% of cards give a 'prize' and they only have a (extremely small) chance of winning something and checking will cost £1.50 per minute and it requires 6 minutes to check if you have won anything. Or you will be told in 6 separate texts costing £1.50 EACH = £9. I wasn't stupid enough to ring or text the number and I found out all this in the smallprint. If you have bought Model Rail, please do not call the number. The magazine itself was great, keep up the good work. Edit: spelling. Edit 2: Removed language specifically criticising Bauer and Model Rail as this issue is not Model Rail’s and I am purely in posting to inform readers against this scheme. Edited December 12, 2017 by cal.n 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 Under the Terms and Conditions on the scratch card, the first T&C says " Promotion unconnected with publication". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) Really enjoyed this one, probably something to do with my interests being both Modern Image and 009 modelling. Liked the article in Fenwick TMD and Whiteoak Light Railway and as ever, the masterplan articles are amazing. Really don't appreciate the insert, it will trick people into thinking they've won anything from £50 up to £1,000,000 and will charge them for calling or trying to claim the prize they think they have 'won.' While really the smallprint tells them over 60% of cards give a 'prize' and they only have a (extremely small) chance of winning something and checking will cost £1.50 per minute and it requires 6 minutes to check if you have won anything. Or you will be told in 6 separate texts costing £1.50 EACH = £9. I wasn't stupid enough to ring or text the number and I found out all this in the smallprint. If you have bought Model Rail, please do not call the number. The magazine itself was great, keep up the good work. Edit: spelling. Edit 2: Removed language specifically criticising Bauer and Model Rail as this issue is not Model Rail’s and I am purely in posting to inform readers against this scheme. When the scratch card falls out of my copy it goes the same way as previous scratch cards which have fallen out of copies of 'Model Rail'. It's not new, we've had them before and they're still as irrelevant as they always were doing nothing good or bad to the content and being nothing to do with the MR team either so no need to waste words on the things. I do however have one complaint about this issue (and it's not a new one) and that is the squeezing down of the amount of copy allowed to a certain past magazine editor in the Backscene area - maybe it was a consequence this time of all the extra copy he had to write for all those objective and very helpful reviews? As ever tho' - in line with recent achievements in the mag - there is some very good stuff although I did find the method of building cuttings on a solid baseboard top something more akin to the methods of yesteryear (albeit with modern materials. Hardshell scenery was being promoted in US magazines 40 years ago and it can stand up to quite a lot of 'abuse' so perhaps needs a bit more promotion nowadays? Edited December 12, 2017 by The Stationmaster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 When the scratch card falls out of my copy it goes the same way as previous scratch cards which have fallen out of copies of 'Model Rail'. It's not new, we've had them before and they're still as irrelevant as they always were doing nothing good or bad to the content and being nothing to do with the MR team either so no need to waste words on the things. I do however have one complaint about this issue (and it's not a new one) and that is the squeezing down of the amount of copy allowed to a certain past magazine editor in the Backscene area - maybe it was a consequence this time of all the extra copy he had to write for all those objective and very helpful reviews? As ever tho' - in line with recent achievements in the mag - there is some very good stuff although I did find the method of building cuttings on a solid baseboard top something more akin to the methods of yesteryear (albeit with modern materials. Hardshell scenery was being promoted in US magazines 40 years ago and it can stand up to quite a lot of 'abuse' so perhaps needs a bit more promotion nowadays? My 'Backscene' of old has morphed into "According to Chris" because it was felt that I should be in the front part of the mag. Unfortunately it had to be dropped at the last minute due to the amount of news from Warley. It'll be back next issue. (CJL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted December 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2017 Under the Terms and Conditions on the scratch card, the first T&C says " Promotion unconnected with publication". That may be true in one sense but from a readers perspective if a scratch card is inserted into a magazine then it is connected with the publication as the only reason you have it is because it came in the magazine. I know magazines need advertising revenue but I think it would be better to avoid stuff like this as carrying scratch cards that fleece the gullible doesn't do anything for the mags reputation even if they have no connection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 That may be true in one sense but from a readers perspective if a scratch card is inserted into a magazine then it is connected with the publication as the only reason you have it is because it came in the magazine. I know magazines need advertising revenue but I think it would be better to avoid stuff like this as carrying scratch cards that fleece the gullible doesn't do anything for the mags reputation even if they have no connection. I suspect the magazine /publishers know nothing about this sort of insert, nor receive any income from it. It will be down to the distribution company they contract with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal.n Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Did some digging, the company that runs the scratchcard are called 'Purely Creative' and have been in trouble before with the Office for Fair Trading and the European Court of Justice. They are also specifically mentioned in this article, with the European Court of Justice deeming their wording 'deliberately deceptive.' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19993931 The ECJ judges added: "EU law prohibits aggressive practices which give the consumer the impression that he has already won a prize, while he is obliged to pay money or incur a certain cost in order to be informed of the nature of that prize or to take certain action to acquire it. "The court makes clear that such practices are prohibited even if the cost imposed on the consumer is minimal (such as that of a stamp) compared with the value of the prize or where it does not procure the trader any benefit." Both of these deceptive elements have clearly not changed since the ECJ ruling, which could see them in real trouble. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Scratch card inserts are not a problem with the digital version... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 That may be true in one sense but from a readers perspective if a scratch card is inserted into a magazine then it is connected with the publication as the only reason you have it is because it came in the magazine. I know magazines need advertising revenue but I think it would be better to avoid stuff like this as carrying scratch cards that fleece the gullible doesn't do anything for the mags reputation even if they have no connection. It is not something that I, or anyone else on the Model Rail team has any connection with or any influence over. I am happy to discuss the magazine editorial content but that is all. (CJL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rue_d_etropal Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 How difficult is it to ignore an insert? I find some advertising a bit intrusive, but still easy to ignore. I would rather get on with my hobby, than moan about something I can easily ignore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted December 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2017 My policy with inserts is to chuck them in the recycling unread. However, with the Radio Times, I give the mag a gentle shake as I lift it off the shelf, and the inserts fall out. From the look of the shelves at my local Waitrose at lunchtimes on a Tuesday, so does 50% of their customers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Local Tescos has a bin by the mag shelves to shake inserts into. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughan45 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Both of these deceptive elements have clearly not changed since the ECJ ruling, which could see them in real trouble. Only until 2019, unless this ECJ ruling is subsequently added to the body of UK law by legislation currently going through parliament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted December 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2017 It is not something that I, or anyone else on the Model Rail team has any connection with or any influence over. I am happy to discuss the magazine editorial content but that is all. (CJL) I don't blame the editorial staff for this, it is something for Bauer to consider. Maybe they need to look at their distribution agreement as many magazines avoid having any of these inserts. Having inserts may be OK for some things but looking at the post of Cal.n it does Bauer no favours to be associated with a company like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 So it makes a company look bad? Well the Radio Times has them in, as do most of the national newspapers. The same goes for most websites with pop ups and clickbait. Just ignore them. Simples. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy W Posted December 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2017 Excellent edition. However on Page 9, forthcoming models, is Dapol really intending to produce an OO BR Standard goods brake van and sell it at £79.99? Should it be O gauge, or is the price is misprinted (or, I suppose, both)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Excellent edition. However on Page 9, forthcoming models, is Dapol really intending to produce an OO BR Standard goods brake van and sell it at £79.99? Should it be O gauge, or is the price is misprinted (or, I suppose, both)? It's another model in Dapol's aggressive expansion into RTR O gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 Excellent edition. However on Page 9, forthcoming models, is Dapol really intending to produce an OO BR Standard goods brake van and sell it at £79.99? Should it be O gauge, or is the price is misprinted (or, I suppose, both)? I suspect it's 'O' gauge and the price is correct but I can't be sure until I get in to the office tomorrow. If the 'OO' is in one of those little heading blocks, it's a safe bet it's that which is wrong. (CJL) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2017 I enjoyed the Tan Y Bwlch arch article. But if CJL could afford the real car I doubt he’d talk to the likes of us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I enjoyed the Tan Y Bwlch arch article. But if CJL could afford the real car I doubt he’d talk to the likes of us! Well, if I still had a car Duds I'd take you out and take to you ! A.Local Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 I enjoyed the Tan Y Bwlch arch article. But if CJL could afford the real car I doubt he’d talk to the likes of us! I can dream! When I bought my house in Old Windsor back in the 1980s, the previous owner asked if he could leave his 'old car' on the drive for a couple of days during the move. I said no, because I didn't fancy having some old banger left there. When I realized it was an E-type Jag, I wished I'd said yes! I did 'toy' with the idea of swapping the model for a Lagonda or an Aston but the original diorama had an E-type, so I stuck with that. (CJL) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greengiant Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Does the owner of a featured layout get a copy of the magazine? I sent an email asking but my email got bounced. Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 Does the owner of a featured layout get a copy of the magazine? I sent an email asking but my email got bounced. Martin Can you e-mail or PM me your address, please? Normally happens but the person who dealt with it has left the company. (CJL) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greengiant Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Can you e-mail or PM me your address, please? Normally happens but the person who dealt with it has left the company. (CJL) Thank you, PM sent. Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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