RMweb Gold Graham T Posted April 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2021 I haven't tried it, but even PVA might work? Get a thin film of it across the opening with a cocktail stick or similar. I'd recommend a test on some scrap first, mind you... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted April 14, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2021 I’ve hung one of the large doors (I’ve had to re-paint the other one) By not gluing them in place I might be able to open/close the doors with the roof removed. Due to a slight design flaw I had positioned the double door track too high and the door hangers interfered with the roof trusses..... ....so I’ve lowered the track 2mm and I’m redoing the doors to compensate. This (in theory) will allow me to open and close the double doors too I know it’s a silly detail and I don’t need too close them.....but the facility is there for photography purposes 15 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted April 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2021 So how long before you rip up all the track and relay it in P4 Chris? Regards Lez. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Is that worrying about 2mm on a door rail a gateway drug to P4? 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted April 14, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, MrWolf said: Is that worrying about 2mm on a door rail a gateway drug to P4? Not sure but it’s definitely a continuing journey into insanity 3 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold simonmcp Posted April 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2021 Unless you've already attacked the old doors, you could always just raise the rest of the building by 2mm to clear the rail tops. I can't find a picture at the moment, but quite often the track looked to be slightly lower than the yard around. The GWR would have sidings slightly lower than the running lines to help prevent runaways onto a running line. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted April 15, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2021 53 minutes ago, simonmcp said: Unless you've already attacked the old doors, you could always just raise the rest of the building by 2mm to clear the rail tops Thanks Simon The end doors are okay and already clear the rails no problem so they don’t need altering ....it was the load area doors that were the problem and the only way to fix it is to lower the track and shorten the doors to clear the top of the inner platform as shown below The issue was that in the position (above) I would not be able to move the doors because the hangers interfere with the roof truss beams The modified doors are out of theatre now and are in ICU with a coat of primer so all will be back to normal tomorrow 7 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted April 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2021 There is another option for the doors just lean them against the wall, there's a gang of men going round rehanging them, they'll be there soon, maybe... 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted April 15, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Worsdell forever said: There is another option for the doors just lean them against the wall, there's a gang of men going round rehanging them, they'll be there soon, maybe... hmmm I never seem to think of doing things an easier way Edited April 15, 2021 by chuffinghell 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted April 16, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) On 08/04/2021 at 10:23, Alister_G said: This is the goods warehouse at Cromford, note the big sign above the door: "Engine Must Not Enter This Warehouse" You could have something similar. Al. I’ve been playing around on the computer The notice boards are Peco and I will paint them dark stone Not sure if I should go for the small one or the big one, I prefer it without a white border though Edited April 16, 2021 by chuffinghell 4 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted April 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2021 A bit of Blutak on each and see which looks best! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted April 16, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Rowsley17D said: A bit of Blutak on each and see which looks best! It is difficult to say for sure until I mock one up on the building I've definitely decided against the white border I'll paint up the notice board frames in dark stone first to make a proper comparison although on the face of it the smaller one seems to be more in proportion to me Edited April 16, 2021 by chuffinghell 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted April 16, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2021 There's only so much a drawing will tell you 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted April 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2021 I'd also go with the smaller one I think. Neat work. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted April 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2021 Nice work Chris. Just to be contrary, I actually like the larger one with the border. It is meant to stand out, as a warning notice. In today's modern environment it would be in flourescent red and yellow, and possibly have flashing lights... Al. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted April 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2021 Hi Chris, I think a sign like that would have either been cast iron or painted lettering on plain board. Always white lettering on black in GWR days with the border white if it was cast. And the wording would simply be optionally "Caution" or "Danger" followed by "Engines must not..." all in bold caps. (And I suggest the word "Goods" is superfluous.) https://www.google.com/search?q="engines+must+not"&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB933GB933&sxsrf=ALeKk01OIEmCLHoNUfFm2BiIk77_p0GuIw:1618564558465&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi65LXstoLwAhV38rsIHXEtDHoQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=2560&bih=1298&dpr=1.5 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted April 16, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Harlequin said: Hi Chris, I think a sign like that would have either been cast iron or painted lettering on plain board. Always white lettering on black in GWR days with the border white if it was cast. And the wording would simply be optionally "Caution" or "Danger" followed by "Engines must not..." all in bold caps. (And I suggest the word "Goods" is superfluous.) https://www.google.com/search?q="engines+must+not"&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB933GB933&sxsrf=ALeKk01OIEmCLHoNUfFm2BiIk77_p0GuIw:1618564558465&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi65LXstoLwAhV38rsIHXEtDHoQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=2560&bih=1298&dpr=1.5 Thanks Phil, would this suffice? LX237-OO Engines Must Not Pass This Arch Sign GWR Pack of 2 OO/4mm/1 76 (scalemodelscenery.co.uk) Personally I think it looks better to the right of the 'arch' probably less obstructed for the loco crew? I've ordered some as they are relatively inexpensive Edited April 16, 2021 by chuffinghell 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) Agree with the bigger version and white edging but I'd stick with your version (with revised wording) - the arch mention makes it look like its been bought and used because nothing better was available off the shelf - your skills mean that's far from the case... If you really want a cast version 3d print it?!!!! Edited April 16, 2021 by Gypsy 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted April 16, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gypsy said: Agree with the bigger version and white edging but I'd stick with your version (with revised wording) - the arch mention makes it look like its been bought and used because nothing better was available off the shelf - your skills mean that's far from the case... If you really want a cast version 3d print it?!!!! so would that be the wrong sign to use then? Edited April 16, 2021 by chuffinghell 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 In my (very) humble opinion, yes! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 ISTR that there were several "Engines must not pass this board" notices available. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted April 16, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) I could design my own Which of these would be more appropriate? Edited April 16, 2021 by chuffinghell 4 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham T Posted April 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16, 2021 I know that the Great Western wasn't exactly known for standardisation, but wasn't a sign like this something that they might have produced a "job lot" of? I'm thinking about the "Beware of trains" signs, for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff park Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 It's no good, I have to be the bearer of bad news. I was hoping KNP would spot it and save me from this. The strut on the inside of your personnel door goes the wrong way. My dad, a builder said the easy way to remember is hangman . See my sketch. The strut should be supporting the otherwise unsupported rail. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainMan2001 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, chuffinghell said: I could design my own Which of these would be more appropriate? I think the most appropriate is the one on the top right! 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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