AlfaZagato Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 He's going the other way - converting Calder Vale to DCC. Bad for analogue locos to run on digital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted September 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2021 you can.. just.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Barry O said: you can.. just.. Without a decoder on board there is no means of controlling, or even switching off, the 14-16v AC that is always live at the rails. If the motor doesn't burn out first, the engine would run away and smash uncontrollably into something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted September 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2021 Set the dcc to address 0. Bas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Barry O said: Set the dcc to address 0. Bas I think you've got the wrong end of the stick, Baz. The locos that I'm talking about can't run on Charlies Yard, and won't be able to run any longer on the CVMR, because they don't have decoders to set to 0, or anything else. They'll just burn out or run away. They're just shelf ornaments now, because I can't get decoders in them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted September 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2021 I mean on your hand set Dave. Unless they have changed everything that set the doc control units to a quasi dc. Bas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Barry O said: I mean on your hand set Dave. Unless they have changed everything that set the doc control units to a quasi dc. Bas I didn't know that. Even if it is possible I don't even like to mix sound and non-sound locos on the same layout, never mind mixing DC and DCC. I am going to try and have everything that runs on this one to have a Stay Alive and sound. Once you've tried the full benefits of DCC, you don't want to go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Barry O said: I mean on your hand set Dave. Unless they have changed everything that set the doc control units to a quasi dc. Bas That's still immensely poor for analogue locomotives. The 'long 0' strategy still will require an occasional opposing signal, which can burn out motors. I think the more modern motors are actually more susceptible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 All set up for two drivers now. I have just the L&Y bar signal to fix and everything's set for an operating session with @rsh7684 on Saturday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsh7684 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ruston said: All set up for two drivers now. I have just the L&Y bar signal to fix and everything's set for an operating session with @rsh7684 on Saturday. Well, one driver and one WPL&T engine mover! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ruston Posted September 26, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) Last weekend's running session had to be cancelled, but we did get to play with the trainset, yesterday. A test session beforehand showed up some problems that need to be sorted for full and proper DCC sound operation. It was all wired up in sections for two DC controllers and this has now shown in the fact that when the points are changed in the loop, power is cut to the road that the points are not set for and so the engine on the other road loses power and sound, after it's Stay Alive drains. There's also the operation of bringing a train down off the high level and running it to the stop board to await instructions and the signalman to change the points onto the main line. It cannot be done as there is no power below the bridge until the points are changed. We worked around it all and had a good session, but it needs to be sorted to make operation more realistic. The CVMR is back in business and the directors are hoping to stop the drain of passengers using motor buses. with more regular services, which feature new (Second hand, but new to the CVMR) and improved coaching stock. The ancient 1850s and 60s stock is now relegated to the quarry workmen's train. Even the Coal & Clay company have invested in new motive power to replace its ageing Neilson. Andrew Barclay & Sons, of Kilmarnock, beat off stiff competition to supply this hefty 16-inch 0-4-0ST. The dropped footplate is necessary to go under the screens at the colliery. Edited September 27, 2021 by Ruston 14 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 Another shot of the Peckett. I said to myself, yesterday, that I'm not going to get carried away with having more engines than is strictly necessary - and then I started looking at the CSP Models website, thinking about Corbs' Manning Wardle kits, and the Kerr Stuart that I have on order from LRS. I'm thinking that the wagon works building may get replaced by an extra engine shed. 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 You know you want to.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Barclay said: You know you want to.... I know I want to but my bank account is saying otherwise. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I forget the timeframe you placed the CVMR in. Will the DCC conversion be used to 'update' the layout to a later period? Will you revisit the scenery to match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 hours ago, AlfaZagato said: I forget the timeframe you placed the CVMR in. Will the DCC conversion be used to 'update' the layout to a later period? Will you revisit the scenery to match? It was supposedly any time from the mid 1870s to 1900, but as a lot of the older engines won't be able to run on here now, and the fact that I have a Barclay that wouldn't have been built until 1921 at the earliest, I guess it's now dated no earlier than that. With the rolling stock all being of pre-Grouping companies that would restrict it to 1923 and maybe a bit beyond until they were all either scrapped or repainted into the Big Four liveries. It doesn't mean that I can't run prototypically older stuff, just that it may have to look quite a bit more worn now. The original coaches were supposed to be second or third hand, and very old, even with the date set at 1900, but now they would be getting on for 50-60 years old and so have been relegated to the quarry workmen's train. They will need a lot of wear and weathering! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ruston Posted October 1, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) The old Beyer Peacock 2-4-0T has been in the 'shops for the fitting of vacuum brakes. I also added some details, including a jack and a toolbox. It has been fitted with sound, using the gear that I had put in a DJH Austerity. That thing is well down the list for works attention and needs a new chassis, so I thought the DCC gear would be better used here. The Austerity sound project isn't that good anyway, so I'll get something better and more suited to this old Beyer loaded onto the decoder in due course. The Hornby coaches have had a light weathering to take the newness and plasticyness off them. This Hornby B2 Peckett belongs to @rsh7684 but has been back to me to have a Stay Alive and larger speaker fitted. It will need several running in turns on the quarry trains of the CVMR, just to be sure that it's all tip top before it goes back. The CVMR fitters are sticklers for everything being right, so this could take weeks. Edited June 2, 2022 by Ruston 22 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ruston Posted October 2, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) The quarry wagons now have loads. All this time they have been run empty, which did cause a bit of confusion during the operating session. The kind of stone from the quarries around the area was used for architectural purposes and I have presumed that it was all cut ready to be used, so I made blocks of varying size and shape. These blocks are made from Plastruct and balsa wood, painted and glued on plastic strip that represents wooden dunnage. They are glued to clear plastic sheet, of the sort used on packaging, that fills the entire wagon floor. The whole assembly is given a coat of Mattcote so that the shine on the clear bases is eradicated and they then blend in almost unnoticeably with the wagon floors. Edited June 2, 2022 by Ruston 17 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidparker172 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 06/04/2019 at 15:34, Ruston said: I have just returned from Scalefour North with various modelling bits and pieces; couplings, wagon transfers and other things. Notably a second hand but unbuilt GNoSR coach kit, by Prickley Pear, which matches the one I am currently building. More importantly I have the last piece of the track plan jigsaw. I have decided that a traverser is too much faff and one is enough, so for the other end of the railway I have gone for a turnplate, which won't turn all the way round - a sector plate? Anyway, it's custom-made by Tim Horn and is nothing more than a sheet of the same good quality 9mm ply that the baseboards are made from, laser-cut and drilled for the pivot. At £15 I couldn't have made it any cheaper myself and certainly couldn't have cut it as accurately! Once it's fitted and the tracks laid upon it, all that remains is to install a shelf at the rear for the high level and the track plan is complete. I also bought a load of Gibson split spoke wagon wheels for upcoming rolling stock projects. I know this is late in the day but does anyone know if these are still available if if so, how to get in touch of Tim Horn to order one? I am struggling via the contact us on website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidparker172 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 16/06/2019 at 16:06, Ruston said: Yesterday and today I have been making and fitting a proper backscene. Simply painting the background a dark green colour was never really going to do, so I used some photos of trees that I took myself and added in a few mill buildings using Photoshop. It was printed onto several sheets of plain A4 paper and cut up in a collage fashion. The different parts were glued to the backscene using PVA glue and a bit of brushing on of more of the sky colour, plus a bit more airbrushing and that's it done. There are some more actual model trees to add, particularly where the paper joints are visible but other than that, it's done. I sat back to admire it and played trains and took some snaps. I'm quite pleased with the background and the scenery as a whole now. @Rustonbsolutely magnificent build! Total newbie question coming up.... Where you have your contol knobs for the points all on one level, how are the upper ones connected with them being higher up?? Is there a vertical link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 12/10/2021 at 19:12, davidparker172 said: @Rustonbsolutely magnificent build! Total newbie question coming up.... Where you have your contol knobs for the points all on one level, how are the upper ones connected with them being higher up?? Is there a vertical link? Somewhere on an earlier page is a photo of the assemblies that I made to change all the points. The high level ones have tubes for the vertical rod to move in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted October 24, 2021 Author Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) A Manning Wardle 16-inch special is currently on loan to the CVMR. Seen here on a trial run over the wooden viaduct. Edited June 2, 2022 by Ruston 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ruston Posted January 1, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) Scott came over, bearing cream cakes and bourbon (not consumed together, I might add), and we had a good long operating session with the trainset, last Wednesday. It's still not being run to a proper timetable, and it still hasn't been rewired, but I have installed lights in the engine shed. Evening at Brookfoot shed. My own large Manning Wardle in use. Edited June 2, 2022 by Ruston 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ruston Posted November 4, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) I have started to go through and reinstate the missing photos but have only got as far as page 9 at the moment. I haven't posted anything new here for a while but the CVMR does get used quite often. Not long ago @5050 came for a play with it and @rsh7684Scott has been for another go with it. He brought along some of his engines to allow them to stretch their legs. Kilmarnockfest 😁 Grant, Ritchie on shed. A "porthole" 14-inch Barclay at work. Edited November 4, 2022 by Ruston 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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