TomJ Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Most of the colour photos I’ve found of South Wales show the NCB locos in a kind of lurid green (when visible under the grime). Does anyone have any better colour images, or even better a suggestion for the best match paint? I’ve tried mixing it myself without luck! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 In the colour photos that I have seen in books look the shade of green is never exactly the same from one loco to the next when it comes to NCB engines in the South Wales coalfield, Were they even painted the exact same colour shade anyway? Is the lighting causing one to look different from another? etc. So I don't think I could suggest any particular named colour to match. I would pick a photo and try to mix something to match what I see.in that particular photo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Was the NCB green that you are looking for on Hunslet diesels as delivered new as I believe that it is a standard shade used by Hunslet. Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) Mountain Ash 0-6-0STs "Sir Gomer" ( P1859 ) and "Llantanam Abbey" ( AB 2074 )were both overhauled at NCB Walkden Central Workshop in the early 1970s, ahead of the NCB taking on the Penrhiwceiber - Abercwmboi traffic from BR. . Both returned in a light green, something akin to LNER 'apple green'. . "Llantanam Abbey" is shown below, waiting to be unloaded, at Abercwmboi Phurnacite Plant - and displaying it's misspelt name ( LlantaRnam Abbey is a convent near Cwmbran, Gwent ) - photographer unknown. Mountain Ash "No.8" (RSH 7139/1944) was overhauled at Mountain Ash Central Workshop and appeared circa 1977-1978 in a slightly darker shade of green. . Mountain Ash "No.1" (HC 1885/1955) was overhauled in Mount shops when it arrived ( from Lady Windsor, Ynysybwl ?) where it had been blue, lined out in black and white, but reappeared in a plain, dark green, but not quite Brunswick Green. . At Maesteg, a couple were rumoured to be in green, somewhere beneath the overall layer of 'cach' - albeit one Austerity at Maesteg was in a light blue livery, again doused with a layer of 'cach' Mardy's two Austerities, (RSH 7099 & VF 5282) were in a light shade of green, but darker than "Sir Gomer" and "Llantanam Abbey" To paraphrase Tim Rice & Andrew Lloyd-Webber it seems, "any green will do" ! . Brian R . Edited October 16, 2018 by br2975 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 If you are happy with this green, take the photo to an automotive paint factor and ask to go through the colour book. A large rattle can will cost around ten pounds. The paint finish might not be as fine as an air brush, but can be "knocked back" with T Cut or 2000 grade wet/dry paper. This was my solution for my red Hunslets. The dark green for Wheldale came from a can we had made for the horse box, and more recently I have used Ford meadow green for the pale faded green on Glasshoughton #4. Once under the lightest coat of weathering almost any green will do! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 My latest steam locos are painted using the old Humbrol acrylic Green, the type in the larger plastic pots, now no longer available. Much better then the stuff currently being offered. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike morley Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Meet Buccaneer, who - to my shame - has been in this unfinished state for over three months and is quite definitely not the shade of green (Humbrol 131) I expected when I picked up the airbrush. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted May 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2019 Hi everyone, Just came across this thread (don't know why I never spotted it when it was new). As with Ruston, I don't remember ever seeing two NCB locos the same shade of green. About twenty-five years ago a friend asked me to paint a couple of small tank locos in "NCB" green; the spec I was given was that one was in Humbrol Satin Green, while the other two were in Citadel Cammo Green (IIRC). I don't know if the latter colour is available (it may be under a different name). Regards, Alex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 11 hours ago, Alex TM said: Hi everyone, Just came across this thread (don't know why I never spotted it when it was new). As with Ruston, I don't remember ever seeing two NCB locos the same shade of green. About twenty-five years ago a friend asked me to paint a couple of small tank locos in "NCB" green; the spec I was given was that one was in Humbrol Satin Green, while the other two were in Citadel Cammo Green (IIRC). I don't know if the latter colour is available (it may be under a different name). Regards, Alex. If they were the same, it was probably ex MOD. The Ford meadow green mentioned in my previous post proved a good match for a pair of Peckett X2 I built earlier this year. Ackton Hall No 3 and Newdigate No 3 shared the same stone washed apple green suggesting that this was a factory colour. Both locomotives visited the works in NCB ownership having worn a black livery during the war. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Any use? 7754 when at Railfest 2004. Apparently the same livery as Llantanam Abbey above. Photo by Chris McKenna via Wiki Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 7754 wore a darker green (but not GWR green) whilst at NCB Talywain and later Mountain Ash........which was a different shade to that carried by Llantanam Abbey. . confusion reigns ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doilum Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Did the NCB have access to vast amounts of MOD surplus? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) The shades of green may have been slightly different as Llantanum Abbey was overhauled at Walkden whereas 7754, I assume, was repainted elsewhere. My recollection is that it was quite a light shade and the photo of 7754 at Llangollen seems very similar to this photo of it at Mountain Ash https://www.flickr.com/photos/12a_kingmoor_klickr/5783190193 Ray. Edited June 26, 2019 by Marshall5 Grammar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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