micklner Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 One and only purchase via ebay. from Olivias . Secondhand a good runner says Olivias on the listing. On arrival nothing when the model had power applied nothing, examination revealed the motor wasnt even wired up. Totally false listing, they ignored my messages etc. It was cheap , so I fixed it . They even had the nerve to ban me from their ebay site for posting a negative feedback , they need'nt have bothered. I wont be buying anything from them ever again anyway!! Buyer beware 1 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 There was a problem with an earlier release of Garratts where lose valve gear could lock up, is this a new Heljan version or one of the Hattons commissions do you know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Yes, I’d check all retailers reputation if never dealt with before - a major plus of the internet age ! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMP1 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Sorry woodenhead i have no idea. I thought it was new but even Neil could not work out if it was new or second hand. Looking at the model closely it did look a little used (wheels) so i would guess a Hattons. I still have had no response from Olivia's....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Looking on Hattons site it is model ID 26604, that makes it an original run model, hattons have none in stock apart from one in secondhand with a detached cab. Looking on Olivia's site, these models are returned items to Heljan that Olivia's have repaired - doesn't state what the repairs were but they are not new items, they are returns. https://oliviastrains.com/product/Heljan-266204-beyer-garratt-7983-lms-black/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium SHerr Posted January 18, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2022 Well that answers my question from a week ago about the class 27s advertised as ‘warranty repaired’. I’m not touching those with a barge pole. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMP1 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 When i looked on the web site it did not state second hand and the order does not state it either. I think this has been added later. Heljan 266204 Beyer Garratt 7983 In LMS Black Livery. Options: ESU V5 Olivia’s Sound Fitted £141.00 Additional Options DCC: Train Crew £10.00 Additional Options DCC: Firebox Flicker £20.00 Pristine / Weathered option: Pristine Stock location: Cabinet (-1) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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