shortliner Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 https://scalescenes.com/product/ly01-industrial-boxfile-layout/?fbclid=IwAR0SkJXVRW2_GNq3lcfW3P8lQFrr-9HgA5Dbs1XJnBD8TCmUuYjwve5TUTc 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacathedrale Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 That's genius! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I can think of a few people who could finish that layout ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke the train spotter Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It's a great idea and good value too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1722 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Amazing. I love a good box file! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted November 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2018 Bought - we are having a boxfile challenge at next year's Mansfield Show 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marly51 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 What a great kit! May be potential for other options later? Marlyn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted November 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2018 Background will be changed to make it a Colliery scene, Grey conveyor etc to match Summat Colliery. Time to go shopping at Warley 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted November 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2018 Box file secured Track underlay and hardstanding glued to card Prints for building A glued to card All glued card under a pile of books until tomorrow........ 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted November 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2018 This arrived today Chassis on the way - What have you done Mr Whiffen! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 What a brilliant idea and, though they say it's only available in OO scale, it could surely be rescaled on the printer for H0. I'm sorely tempted to buy it and see if I could make some subtle adaptations (if indeed any are needed aoart from signage) to create a French scene - probably just a change to the glazing would do it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted November 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2018 David, scaling is tricky if you want to fit it into a boxfile as there is no "adjustment" for the depth of the scene, there is however some "play" in the design for the width. Things like the conveyor being on an angle make lengthening it tricky etc. That's why I had to make sure I got hold of a 245mm wide boxfile, some are a good 15 to 20mm wider! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenser Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Superb idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Wonder who'll be first to incorporate the contents - or maybe more than one set - into a full-size layout? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 David, scaling is tricky if you want to fit it into a boxfile as there is no "adjustment" for the depth of the scene, there is however some "play" in the design for the width. Things like the conveyor being on an angle make lengthening it tricky etc. That's why I had to make sure I got hold of a 245mm wide boxfile, some are a good 15 to 20mm wider! There's nothing to say you can't scratchbuilt an appropriatly sized boxfile-like box for it to fit in in other scales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) David, scaling is tricky if you want to fit it into a boxfile as there is no "adjustment" for the depth of the scene, there is however some "play" in the design for the width. Things like the conveyor being on an angle make lengthening it tricky etc. That's why I had to make sure I got hold of a 245mm wide boxfile, some are a good 15 to 20mm wider! Thanks Redgate, that's worth knowing though I think modifying it for H0 would be all part of the fun. I'd also have to identify the elements that would need to be worked on. There are things that make a building, especially an industrial one, recognisably British, French, American or German etc. and they can be quite subtle (and of course subject to regional variations) The shape of arches is an obvious characteristic but there are none of those here. The actual shape of the window surrounds are to a pattern that I tend to associate with French industrial buildings in any case though the setting of glazing bars tends to be different. I've downloaded their free sample warehouse and will see how that looks when rescaled. I had an interesting discussion with Carl Arendt about boxfiles some years ago. He'd never heard of them and they're simply not used in N. America. I'm not sure about the rest of Europe. As well as size they also vary in quality, some are just compressed paper but the better ones are based on a thin wooden structure. Edited November 8, 2018 by Pacific231G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I like the idea, though it's far too modern for my liking... My answer to the small space question was this: A tea tray! Always raises good conversation at shows, and can be run off of a 9 volt battery if desired. By it's very nature it is very portable, having a comfortable handle at each end (it's an upturned tea tray) and can even be moved whilst it is running. At one show I briefly walked around with it running, much to several people's amusement. It's also been run on a class 377 during an evening commute! It can literally be exhibited anywhere, and was a fun fortnight of evenings to put together. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rue_d_etropal Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I like it that design, but wish people would not assume the boxfile layout has to be IN the box. It was from an idea I found online, putting the flat area on the inside of the lid and using the box as backscene. This not only means you can fit taller buildings IN the box, but you can have a bigger layout with 2 or more boxes side by side. Most people when they see my French HO layout don't realise it is boxfile based till tell them. As for scale, I am planning a Gauge 1 (1/32) standard gauge (45mm) ,using 3 boxfiles, possibly more, It will have one working point, and one of my 3D printed wagon turntables. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) A pair of videos, taken some time ago, showing 'Kimmeridge' out and about on the Southern network - first on a train leaving Ford, then at Barnham station on the Island Platform 1/2 with a Bognor train leaving, then the Southampton Central train which the layout was on in the other video. The layout has had something of a facelift since then! Edited November 9, 2018 by sem34090 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted November 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2018 A start has been made .... I'm doing building A first as I can't progress with the trackwork etc until I get the narrow gauge Y point at Warley 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) Redgate - I'm glad this post helped solve your problem, and very intrigued to see that others are thinking about it - looking forward to seeing your completed version. Now another "little" question - do any readers remember the TTn3 layout, built by John Patmore that appeared a long time ago in RM or CM - I have a feeling that something based on the same idea might be popular among space-starved modellers - but I can't find my copy.It must have been way back - because it had a picture of one of his locos posed beside an old 12-sided three-penny bit, with the portcullis on it. Edited November 9, 2018 by shortliner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I had an interesting discussion with Carl Arendt about boxfiles some years ago. He'd never heard of them and they're simply not used in N. America. I'm not sure about the rest of Europe. As well as size they also vary in quality, some are just compressed paper but the better ones are based on a thin wooden structure. I didn't notice the word 'America' at first and was about to say 'I'm sure I've seen 2mm in a boxfile' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestTom Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Thanks Redgate, that's worth knowing though I think modifying it for H0 would be all part of the fun. I'd also have to identify the elements that would need to be worked on. There are things that make a building, especially an industrial one, recognisably British, French, American or German etc. and they can be quite subtle (and of course subject to regional variations) The shape of arches is an obvious characteristic but there are none of those here. The actual shape of the window surrounds are to a pattern that I tend to associate with French industrial buildings in any case though the setting of glazing bars tends to be different. I've downloaded their free sample warehouse and will see how that looks when rescaled. I had an interesting discussion with Carl Arendt about boxfiles some years ago. He'd never heard of them and they're simply not used in N. America. I'm not sure about the rest of Europe. As well as size they also vary in quality, some are just compressed paper but the better ones are based on a thin wooden structure. I experimented with one of the cardboard ones and managed to get an 009 Inglenook in there. It was more sturdy than I thought, even with a hole cut into the end. I like the idea, though it's far too modern for my liking... My answer to the small space question was this: A tea tray! Always raises good conversation at shows, and can be run off of a 9 volt battery if desired. By it's very nature it is very portable, having a comfortable handle at each end (it's an upturned tea tray) and can even be moved whilst it is running. At one show I briefly walked around with it running, much to several people's amusement. It's also been run on a class 377 during an evening commute! It can literally be exhibited anywhere, and was a fun fortnight of evenings to put together. Brilliant! I may have to steal this idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I demand royalties! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestTom Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I demand royalties! You can have 10% of all the money I make from the layout. Which I think means you'll wind up owing me money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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