JeffP Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Looking at that model, I CANNOT UNDERSTAND anyone having wanted to do one. And they COULD have done Falcon too: better looking, and would have worked out of the box. That thing looks like a horror and seems to build like one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I've been trying, for curiosities sake, to find out what the piece of body mounted equipment is that fits in the (model) holes forward of the engine access doors but behind the air grilles towards the nose end. It is visible on most pictures of Claytons that I've seen but I'm not sure it was fitted to all ? Andy Hello Andy, is it the square hole in this photo? Just about above the second support stanchion for the conduit? If that's it it's one of two things, emergency engine shut off, or the control for the fire extinguishers. Brian will let us know for sure. OzzyO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 Brian will let us know for sure. OzzyO. Well if you insist Ozzyo If I have got your request right Andy it's a water gauge and is included in the kit as a lost wax casting. Claytons were not built with this and by the looks of it 8598 that I am doing did not get it, so I will have to fill the holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Thanks Brian, missed them two holes, I was thinking about the square hole below them. OzzyO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 (edited) Hi Brian, As always I admire your speed of work, ingenuity and perseverance..... BTW my better half has Jason Donovan on TV (Life Stories) with Pete Waterman weeping over 'too many broken hearts' and JD, perhaps he should have paid a bit more attention to the Clayton and then it wouldnt make you (and the rest of us) weep!! I hope that you didnt breath in that resin dust. My better half has just asked why, if it aint 'fit for purpose' of 'a satisfactory quality' and 'free from defects', dont more of us return such kits for replacement/repair/refund - she has a point and one which is difficult to argue with! Such a shame, that a product of this price point and - perceived - quality misses the mark - defeat from the jaws of victory? Hope it comes good Brian... . ATVB CME Edited May 4, 2012 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) Took the Clayton for it's first run this weekend. It worked fine apart from the screw on wheels wanting to unscrew themselves After a bit of loctight on them all was fine. I took a video clip of it today as proof. Must admit I was nicely surprised that it pulled 33 wagons ok. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37eUY4nIBXo&list=UUXGIxY_z3Y5_oQlvYp7gqaw&index=1&feature=plcp Edited May 7, 2012 by brian daniels 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted May 8, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 8, 2012 33 wagons....not bad going at all! And you sneaked a warflat with LR on the end, good job it wasn't carrying a scorpion . I am suprised our miniature drivers don't go on strike over working conditions looking at the state of the track, seems no matter how careful we are laying the stuff, from thier point of view it must be like riding a bucking bronco! I am a bit suprised by the problems with accessing the body fixing screws etc, almost like JLTRT have never built the finished kit before . Oh and the copper tape tip.....I am not so sure I would have thought about it until I saw the same problem with hiding the cables on a forum as well......and no I have non in stock either, might be worth keeping an eye out for some though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted May 8, 2012 Author Share Posted May 8, 2012 Well David it is a test track and it's doing exactly that isn't it! I know what you mean though it does look rough from on board your own train. I have now modified the bogie fixing so instead of the nut on the bogie pivot being in the hood and requiring the bogies to be fitted first I have turned the pivot upside down so the bogie can now go on after the body has been screwed to the chassis. I have also added the 4th pick- up whilst I had it all apart. To be honest it ran fine with 3 axles picking up just like an 0-6-0 really but the more the merrier. Someone at JLTRT has put a couple together, I wonder what they thought of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 looks superb ! ive got a old acorn 17 and its still one of my fav diesels,they just look right ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard carr Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Brian It looks great, mine is still in its box but when I do get round to building it this will be really helpful. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Still looks like someone with eyesight problems designed it. Brian, how did you get the extended shots of it from the side/above? Just walked round after it? The camera was very still......and where is the test track? Here's some copper foil tape: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/COPPER-FOIL-TAPE-DOLLS-HOUSE-LIGHTING-6MM-WIDE-/360195355000?pt=UK_Dolls_House_Miniatures&hash=item53dd50f178 Loads more too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Be interesting to see your build Richard, do what I did or learn from my mistakes and make a better job! Jeff, I use a Canon G10 to video the trains which I just followed around, handheld. I keep thinking about getting a proper digital camera as the picture cameras with a video function don't keep the model in focus as you follow it they just pre-focus once and that's it so you have to try and keep everthing at a set distance. The test track is the Hurley Groups track that gets put up at Bourne End. The Guys in the background are building a new one for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) Done just about all I can do on this now until I get the few remaining castings to finish it, life guards, windy wipers, res &control air pipes, compressor front, underframe fillers, cooker, thinks that's about it. Looks the part. Front bufferbeam still needs control air and res pipe on left hand side. Two conduits added from cab to bufferbeam. To remove the body you have to pull these out (only a push fit) and slide the body off the front pipe as well. Sppedo cable added. Don't know what these two air pipes do? Cab interior one end still needs a cooker. Other end interior. Bogie pivot now has the retaining screw at the bottom. Just about make out the extra pick-up I managed to fit next to the gearbox. Edited May 10, 2012 by brian daniels 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Looks good Brian how much do the model weigh? Have you had any wheel slip? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 PM'd you Brian on the "usual" subject. I hate to say it, but detailed, it looks quite ...........good. Still think it's a dog of a design, mind............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 Pete, it weighs 827g. I suppose it pulls near enough what the prototype did. There's room in the hoods for some weight if needed. Jeff, I will mention the way it's been thought out to Pete Waterman tomorrow! And I will go down on bended knee to ask for a Falcon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Close Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) Jeff can't argue with that Brian I'd love to see it. Good luck! Best wishes, Chris. Edited May 12, 2012 by Gallows Close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC126 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Brian, just like to say that for "us up North" the Clayton looks spectacularly nice. It reminds me of trips into Glasgow Central in the "Golden Age of Trains". There used to be a little swarm of them on Central Station Bridge... until one day they all disappeared. To my child mind, I thought they would magically reappear, but I was to be disappointed. They were gone for ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 The only one I ever saw was being used as a re-railing excercise on Eastfield depot on my first ever visit, June 1974. I never saw another....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share Posted May 13, 2012 Jeff I had word with Pete at Reading about Falcon and I was left with impression that he was warming to the idea not so sure about Laurie though.Keep up the pressure. Got to admit Kesrat in 7mm would be awsome and I am sure people would want one as it just looks the dogs dangly's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 How would I contact Pete? by letter? Ho Ho! a begging letter with a difference........ Did you get my PM Brian.......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) How would I contact Pete? by letter? Ho Ho! a begging letter with a difference........ Did you get my PM Brian.......? You can contact him through JLTRTs web site, They have a facebook page and railnuts is now on face book. Must admit I wouldnt mind one as well Edited May 13, 2012 by steve fay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted May 13, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 13, 2012 Railnts would be the most direct route, Pete is always popping in and out there.........remind him of the FNA flask wagon he said he wanted to build too, I've given up and am presently waiting on a Bachman 4mm thats been scanned and will hopefully be printed sometime this year, well I have been waiting 6 months already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Pete tends to blow hot and cold on this, he once told me to "watch this space.........". Now Laurie, who seems to have control, has told me no chance at least twice. I reckon my scratch build will be the only way. I just hope I can make enough parts available for others to follow my build, since quite a few people want one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share Posted May 13, 2012 Railnts would be the most direct route, Pete is always popping in and out there.........remind him of the FNA flask wagon he said he wanted to build too, I've given up and am presently waiting on a Bachman 4mm thats been scanned and will hopefully be printed sometime this year, well I have been waiting 6 months already! He did mention about an FNA in our conversation so he hasn't forgot about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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