LNER / Pre-Grouping Coaches Kits in 2mm/N?

[Stefen1988]

Hi Folks,

 

can someone tell me if there are manufacturers of LNER / pre-Grouping Coaches in 2mm/N?

 

I'm searching for Pull-Pull and Gresley Multi-Unit Coaches.

 

Greetings

Edited January 17, 2020 by Stefen1988

[BernardTPM]

Langley Models do a NER clerestory push-pull coach.

[Bucoops]

Have you tried Worsley Works? Scratch aids rather than full kits but a good selection.

[scottystitch]

Etched Pixels do a range of LNER and GCR rolling stock:

 

https://www.ultima-models.co.uk/catalogue/index-lner.html

 

Best

 

Scott

Edited January 17, 2020 by scottystitch

[Compound2632]

1 hour ago, scottystitch said:

Etched Pixels do a range of LNER and GCR rolling stock:

 

https://www.ultima-models.co.uk/catalogue/index-lner.html

 

 

They seem to have confused the terms vestibuled (having an entrance separate from the seating area) and gangwayed (having a "corridor" connection between carriages).

[Bucoops]

1 hour ago, Compound2632 said:

 

They seem to have confused the terms vestibuled (having an entrance separate from the seating area) and gangwayed (having a "corridor" connection between carriages).

 

Historically they are correct - the LNER used the American definition of Vestibuled - which meant having the gangwayed connection between carriages. This was because they adopted the American Pullman design of gangway connection, rather than the British Standard.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestibuled_train

 

 

 

[Darryl Tooley]

23 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

They seem to have confused the terms vestibuled (having an entrance separate from the seating area) and gangwayed (having a "corridor" connection between carriages).

No, this is how the LNER used the term vestibule.  The 1947 General Appendix, for example, refers to Pullman Vestibules, British Standard Vestibules and vestibules being brought into compression.

 

I see Bucoops has beaten me to it, but I'll post this anyway, as it provides a reference for this being the officially sanctioned usage of the term on the LNER.

 

D

[Compound2632]

Live and learn, but they're an odd lot, these LNER types - playing havoc with the plain sense of British English. However, I can see that in terms of American passenger car construction, which almost universally adopted an open saloon with an entrance platform at each end, at first open and later enclosed, this makes some sense. I'll stick to my LMS way of thinking:

• gangwayed: with an end connection for access to adjacent vehicles
• vestibuled: with an entrance (not necessarily at the end) separate from the seating area
• corridor: with a side passage enabling communication along the length of the vehicle

Not all gangwayed vehicles are vestibuled and vice-versa;

not all vestibuled vehicles are corridor and vice versa;

not all corridor vehicles are gangwayed and vice versa.

 

It's a bit like the Athanasian creed: beware the Wolverton anathema.

 

Edited January 17, 2020 by Compound2632