HS2

[corneliuslundie]

I seem to remember that it was recently announced that Alsthom has no orders for the UK factory for some time, in fact until they start building stock for HS2. Is that likely to affect whether they can deliver? And if so will that mean more delay to opening?

Jonathan

[jamie92208]

32 minutes ago, corneliuslundie said:

I seem to remember that it was recently announced that Alsthom has no orders for the UK factory for some time, in fact until they start building stock for HS2. Is that likely to affect whether they can deliver? And if so will that mean more delay to opening?

Jonathan

I think that Roger Ford has something to say about that problem in the December Modern Railways. As far as know it will be 2026 or 27 before steel is cufor the HS2 stock. 

 

Jamie

[APOLLO]

4 hours ago, jamie92208 said:

I think that Roger Ford has something to say about that problem in the December Modern Railways. As far as know it will be 2026 or 27 before steel is cufor the HS2 stock. 

 

Jamie

 

They could in the interim make these - a "spade ready" ready £££millions market to Government !!!!!

 

 

 

 

Brit15

 

[melmerby]

It looks like Hitachi will be the first to start work on the HS2 stock with bodyshells with Alstom doing later work on them, bogies and final fitting out

 

It would appear it's effectively now a Hitachi product after purchasing the Zefiro design from Bombadier when it was taken over by Alstom.

Edited November 24, 2023 by melmerby

[APOLLO]

I thought Bisto was going to make them, being a Government contract !!!!

 

Brit15

[jamie92208]

22 minutes ago, melmerby said:

It looks like Hitachi will be the first to start work on the HS2 stock with bodyshells with Alstom doing later work on them, bogies and final fitting out

 

It would appear it's effectively now a Hitachi product after purchasing the Zefiro design from Bombadier when it was taken over by Alstom.

I think at the bogies are coming from Crewe with assembly and testing at Derby. 

 

Jamie

[corneliuslundie]

My concern is whether they will still be around to undertake the contract if there is no work for the factories in the meantime.

Jonathan

[APOLLO]

i heard there are Pacers being held in strategic reserve at Springs Branch for HS2 !!!!!!!!!!!

 

Brit15

[melmerby]

44 minutes ago, corneliuslundie said:

My concern is whether they will still be around to undertake the contract if there is no work for the factories in the meantime.

Jonathan

Maybe Hitachi could complete the work?

[jamie92208]

This has just popped up on Youtubenot the best of videos but it does show some concrete progress. At Curzon Street. 

 

 

 

Yes I know it's an awful pun. 

 

Jamie

[corneliuslundie]

I am just getting a black rectangle.

J

 

[jamie92208]

1 hour ago, corneliuslundie said:

I am just getting a black rectangle.

J

 

Sorry but I've no idea why, it displays OK on my tablet. 

 

Jamie

Edited November 25, 2023 by jamie92208

[corneliuslundie]

Working fine now.

J

[Bernard Lamb]

Another benefit of HS2 is handed over for public use.

The Wendover to Halton canal side path has been completed.

Bernard

 

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[melmerby]

Driving to Hampton in Arden station, the road (Hampton Lane) crosses the M42.

A lot of work going on there (It's just south of the A45) and wonder whether it's a consequence of what's happening a couple of miles north where HS2 crosses the M42?

Anybody any news?

[jamie92208]

26 minutes ago, melmerby said:

Driving to Hampton in Arden station, the road (Hampton Lane) crosses the M42.

A lot of work going on there (It's just south of the A45) and wonder whether it's a consequence of what's happening a couple of miles north where HS2 crosses the M42?

Anybody any news?

Yes HS2 crosses the M42 then goes pasHampton in Arden before crossing the A45.  The new Birmingham Interchange station which is before the delta Junction.  I'm not sure how far along things are in that area. 

 

Jamie

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[Re6/6]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/hs2-plans-for-private-funding-of-euston-tunnel-likely-to-fail-top-adviser-warns/ar-AA1kygFA

[62613]

1 hour ago, Re6/6 said:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/hs2-plans-for-private-funding-of-euston-tunnel-likely-to-fail-top-adviser-warns/ar-AA1kygFA

A clear case for a government loan guarantee scheme as happened in the 1930s, or for the government to at least finance the job themselves. 

 Private companies won't invest in projects, even those in the public interest like this one, unless they can see a decent return on that investment. Adam Smith recognised this in the 18th century.

[corneliuslundie]

And is there now any demand for either offices or retail space in central London? Or perhaps it should be a "cafe complex" with a few nail bars, barbers and tattoo parlours thrown in - about the only things one can't do on-line. Oh, I forgot the charity shops.

A bit tongue in cheek but that is how town and city centres are going.

Jonathan

[Richard E]

2 hours ago, corneliuslundie said:

And is there now any demand for either offices or retail space in central London? Or perhaps it should be a "cafe complex" with a few nail bars, Turkish barbers and tattoo parlours thrown in - about the only things one can't do on-line. Oh, I forgot the charity shops.

A bit tongue in cheek but that is how town and city centres are going.

Jonathan

Fixed that for you ...

[Northmoor]

3 hours ago, corneliuslundie said:

And is there now any demand for either offices or retail space in central London? Or perhaps it should be a "cafe complex" with a few nail bars, barbers and tattoo parlours thrown in - about the only things one can't do on-line. Oh, I forgot the charity shops.

A bit tongue in cheek but that is how town and city centres are going.

Jonathan

I can promise you that on several days of the week, London commuting is very close to as busy as pre-pandemic.  

[lcd13]

The author of the website “A London Inheritance” at www.alondoninheritance.com has just published his annual description of the impact of the Euston construction works on the local area.  He has done these annually since 2017 to record the impact of the works, with the previous articles linked from this one.  It seems that the site is shutting down rapidly.

[jamie92208]

This has just been posted. Appreciate that it's a form of advertising but I fou d the topic interesting show g aspe t's of the work that don't get covered. 

Jamie