The Night Mail

[SM42]

Odd goings on hereabouts. 

 

The third wandering lost dog in a week has just been collected by its owner. 

 

Must be something in the water

 

Andy

[Happy Hippo]

26 minutes ago, NHY 581 said:

I don't have a shed. I do have a garage which currently has a layout in it but only to have 'works' conducted thereon. 

 

I do however have the Room of Doom where the layouts normally reside. 

 

 

I think in the Hippodrome, anything with a minimum of four walls and a door qualifies as a room of doom.

[Canal Digger]

13 hours ago, durham light infantry said:

14 hours ago, NHY 581 said:

 

Working on the basis that you're now being serious, I simply took it as an example of a hysterical reaction to what was a straight forward matter. 

 

Rob

 

 

 

Given that is impossible to imply hyperbole in what was a plain statement, Rob was quite right to question it. It just goes to further demean those Police Officers and Police Staff struggling with an increasing burden of workload and under resourcing.

This is IMHO getting far too serious. Close and move on please

[Mike Bellamy]

21 hours ago, br2975 said:

My colleague(s) and I would be required to wait in a corridor with the 'patient' , usually for hours, whilst suitably qualified members of hospital staff were located, and cajoled into forming a suitable team to examine, and 'section' the patient.

 

By coincidence, see link published today for the response from Derbyshire - a trained Mental Health Practitioner with an officer in a Police car from 4.00pm to midnight, 7 days a week.

 

https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/derby-news/new-service-mental-health-experts-8517150

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[Hroth]

28 minutes ago, Happy Hippo said:

I think in the Hippodrome, anything with a minimum of four walls and a door qualifies as a room of doom.

 

Do you bother with a roof, or ceiling?

Or are they optional extras?

 

Hence the doom....

 

[bbishop]

Brian, to the best of my knowledge Met Police are not covering London Ambulance calls.  The last time that I saw them on a shout was a collapse in a pub at half past midnight.  Five LAS people (three staff, two volunteers) treating an unresponsive patient, with a dozen or so police watching.  I had to ask on of them to stop the traffic so we could wheel the trolley bed across the road.

 

And if the police are withdrawing from mental health calls, it will just put more pressure on the ambulance service.  I have seen, but can't remember the statistic, about the percentage of calls that have a mental health element.  It is already significant.

 

Bill

[skipepsi]

56 minutes ago, Hroth said:

 

Do you bother with a roof, or ceiling?

Or are they optional extras?

 

Hence the doom....

 

The lack of a floor is the problem area...

[Dave Hunt]

On 13/06/2023 at 10:49, SM42 said:

Who has to attend when the person talked down from a bridge is sectioned and the next day are back on the same bridge and again on the third day.

 

Andy

 

There was an incident many years ago at Lincoln station when a woman had climbed over the side of the station footbridge and was threatening to throw herself onto the tracks. This would probably not have resulted in her death and what she was trying to do was unclear but all rail traffic was stopped, including the train that a disgruntled RAF NCO was catching. Eventually he got so fed up that he marched up onto the bridge, said to the woman, "For pity's sake just get on with it," and pushed her off. Apart from cuts and bruises she was unhurt but The NCO didn't catch his train since he was under arrest. I don't know what happened to him afterwards but by all accounts he was applauded by many of the other people at the station.

 

Dave

[Dave Hunt]

18 hours ago, Winslow Boy said:

You get a flurry of jobs at the end of the year because the sodding accountants changed the rules and made it impossible to carry over jobs into April. 

 

And the bean counters are eager to see an underspend at year's end so they can cut next year's budget as last year's obviously wasn't needed. When some cretin decided that the armed forces would have an internal market system and every unit, no matter how small, would have its own budget this sort of thing was endemic. 

 

Dave

[Flying Fox 34F]

2 hours ago, Winslow Boy said:

Did I say I preferred not to discuss the garage.

WB, It’s others that are discussing garages. Your not!

 

Paul

[Dave Hunt]

The Hunt Towers roof situation is, with luck, in the throes of being sorted out. The guys who came to look at it yesterday have issued a report that has identified the work to be carried out, i.e., removing all tiles, replacing battens and felt, replacing tiles with upwards of forty needing renewal, refixing ridge tiles and renewing several broken ones, clearing out and recementing valley gutters for the sum of £3,500. All the work identified as necessary is backed up by photographs and videos. Until recently my BiL was CEO of the British Roofing Federation and his opinion is that this is a fair and reasonable price and since the firm have a very good reputation I have given them the go-ahead. So that's a few more Deltics off the roster.

 

Dave

[Happy Hippo]

26 minutes ago, Dave Hunt said:

 

And the bean counters are eager to see an underspend at year's end so they can cut next year's budget as last year's obviously wasn't needed. When some cretin decided that the armed forces would have an internal market system and every unit, no matter how small, would have its own budget this sort of thing was endemic. 

 

Dave

The higher echelons of policy management thought that using civil manufacturing stores and distribution systems so that everything was purchased just in time, was a good idea.  So started implementation. In truth it was a complete clusterfluk.

 

Come Gulf War 1, the military provisioners were out buying up AA batteries (You would not believe how much military kit runs on these) from the like of B&Q and Homebase, as the just in time system collapsed when the armed forces went onto a war footing.  Obviously there were lots of other examples, but the batteries stuck in my mind.

 

 

 

 

Edited June 14, 2023 by Happy Hippo

[Dave Hunt]

On 13/06/2023 at 10:04, Darlington_Shed said:

 

The Portuguese (in my humble opinion).

 

Mrs Shed and I will be in Lisbon in September where I intend to undertake extensive research.

 

Our local bakery does a mean Portuguese custard tart. Un fortunately Hunt Towers is currently on a campaign to reduce the mass of its inhabitants so I can only look but not touch. Pah!

 

Dave

[Oldddudders]

43 minutes ago, Dave Hunt said:

 

There was an incident many years ago at Lincoln station when a woman had climbed over the side of the station footbridge and was threatening to throw herself onto the tracks. This would probably not have resulted in her death and what she was trying to do was unclear but all rail traffic was stopped, including the train that a disgruntled RAF NCO was catching. Eventually he got so fed up that he marched up onto the bridge, said to the woman, "For pity's sake just get on with it," and pushed her off. Apart from cuts and bruises she was unhurt but The NCO didn't catch his train since he was under arrest. I don't know what happened to him afterwards but by all accounts he was applauded by many of the other people at the station.

Yet another case of the law being an ass. Democracy is not served by those who hold others to ransom. Gluing yourself to the road is no different, however earnest your beliefs. And the lockdown strictures of Covid, while well-intentioned for the benefit of all, have not helped any nation's mental health. 

 

But your tale reminds me of a Peter Cook & Dudley Moore story about apparently witnessing a threatened suicide, a bloke on a ledge with the traffic stopped etc.. "Jump you f****r!" was their supportive response. 

[NHY 581]

3 hours ago, Winslow Boy said:

Did I say I preferred not to discuss the garage.

 

 

What's the issue with the garage, Winners ? 

 

Mmmm ? 

 

You're amongst fiends. Do tell......we can help, offer advice or generally subject you to ridicule. 

 

Standing by..

 

 

Rob

[Happy Hippo]

15 minutes ago, Dave Hunt said:

 

Our local bakery does a mean Portuguese custard tart. Un fortunately Hunt Towers is currently on a campaign to reduce the mass of its inhabitants so I can only look but not touch. Pah!

 

Dave

Hippo tactic for such eventualities is simple.

 

We are loosing weight, so I will exercise more.

 

This is deemed good, so I  am sent out on my bicycle and, quite by accident, pass various shops en route which specialise in making my appetite a little more content.

 

I have to stop to pass the time of day, and then it would be rude not to purchase.

 

I just make sure the crumbs are brushed off prior to my return

[Northmoor]

50 minutes ago, Happy Hippo said:

The higher echelons of policy management thought that using civil manufacturing stores and distribution systems so that everything was purchased just in time, was a good idea.  So started implementation. In truth it was a complete clusterfluk.

 

Come Gulf War 1, the military provisioners were out buying up AA batteries (You would not believe how much military kit runs on these) from the like of B&Q and Homebase, as the just in time system collapsed when the armed forces went onto a war footing.  Obviously there were lots of other examples, but the batteries stuck in my mind.

As yes, Just In Time, or Not Quite In Time as it becomes when used in organisations where demand is by their very nature, "spiky".  Then the mandarins report that on 49 out of 52 weeks last year, the system performed satisfactorily, just not during the three weeks when our forces were being shot at.  Never mind.

 

While I can understand the desire not to just keep stores full of stuff no-one actually needs, "Just in case", it's baffling how those that introduce these systems can't see that they were optimised for that which they were designed for (JiT came from Japanese mass-production manufacturing).  It doesn't mean it transfers to other types of organisation.  Unless I'm mistaken, you don't tend to see a 9000% increase in demand in a single week (and which reverts to normal demand the following week), for Nissan Micras.

[Flying Fox 34F]

50 minutes ago, NHY 581 said:

 

 

What's the issue with the garage, Winners ? 

 

Mmmm ? 

 

You're amongst fiends. Do tell......we can help, offer advice or generally subject you to ridicule. 

 

Standing by..

 

 

Rob

Rob,

 

Are you saying we are all a bunch of Fiends????

 

Very quick deduction Sheep Bloke

 

Paul

[Winslow Boy]

3 hours ago, skipepsi said:

The lack of a floor is the problem area...

 

Not for a Hippo I think.

[Winslow Boy]

4 hours ago, SM42 said:

Odd goings on hereabouts. 

 

The third wandering lost dog in a week has just been collected by its owner. 

 

Must be something in the water

 

Andy

 

Just so long as it's not in the paint you should be okay.

[polybear]

4 hours ago, Winslow Boy said:

Did I say I preferred not to discuss the garage.

 

Bear hasn't got a Garage (have I ever mentioned that?).....😭

 

2 hours ago, Dave Hunt said:

 

There was an incident many years ago at Lincoln station when a woman had climbed over the side of the station footbridge and was threatening to throw herself onto the tracks. This would probably not have resulted in her death and what she was trying to do was unclear but all rail traffic was stopped, including the train that a disgruntled RAF NCO was catching. Eventually he got so fed up that he marched up onto the bridge, said to the woman, "For pity's sake just get on with it," and pushed her off. Apart from cuts and bruises she was unhurt but The NCO didn't catch his train since he was under arrest. I don't know what happened to him afterwards but by all accounts he was applauded by many of the other people at the station.

 

Dave

 

There was an incident on the M25 only 2 or 3 years ago where someone was threatening to jump; the traffic was stopped and backed up for miles as the Plod spent several hours trying to talk them down; during that event numerous people held up by events were encouraging the person to jump by shout "FFS.....JUMP...." so they could crack on with their journey.  ISTR there was talk about bringing charges against some of those people but I don't recall reading any more.

 

1 hour ago, Dave Hunt said:

Until recently my BiL was CEO of the British Roofing Federation and his opinion is that this is a fair and reasonable price and since the firm have a very good reputation I have given them the go-ahead.

 

Dropping that little snippet into proceedings whilst serving Tea & Biccies might "encourage" them to do a crackin' job....😄

[Winslow Boy]

2 hours ago, Flying Fox 34F said:

WB, It’s others that are discussing garages. Your not!

 

Paul

 

That is a very cruel comment and could be construed as being discriminatory. 

And before anyone feels that is hyperbole I will state that is firmly with my tongue in my cheek.

[Canal Digger]

1 hour ago, Northmoor said:

2 hours ago, Happy Hippo said:

The higher echelons of policy management thought that using civil manufacturing stores and distribution systems so that everything was purchased just in time, was a good idea.  So started implementation. In truth it was a complete clusterfluk.

 

Come Gulf War 1, the military provisioners were out buying up AA batteries (You would not believe how much military kit runs on these) from the like of B&Q and Homebase, as the just in time system collapsed when the armed forces went onto a war footing.  Obviously there were lots of other examples, but the batteries stuck in my mind.

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As yes, Just In Time, or Not Quite In Time as it becomes when used in organisations where demand is by their very nature, "spiky".  Then the mandarins report that on 49 out of 52 weeks last year, the system performed satisfactorily, just not during the three weeks when our forces were being shot at.  Never mind.

 

While I can understand the desire not to just keep stores full of stuff no-one actually needs, "Just in case", it's baffling how those that introduce these systems can't see that they were optimised for that which they were designed for (JiT came from Japanese mass-production manufacturing).  It doesn't mean it transfers to other types of organisation.  Unless I'm mistaken, you don't tend to see a 9000% increase in demand in a single week (and which reverts to normal demand the following week), for Nissan Micras.

Speaking as an ex-MoD Inventory Manager, the classic extreme example of a project having to buy something is very possibly never going to used is Submarine Propeller Shafts, made of very special material, 'quite long'. several points at which it has been carefully machined (bearings), packed in a special crate so it doesn't bend .... . The cost and the lead time of buying just one when one fails don't bear thinking about.

Just In Time works for some things but not all.

 

[Welchester]

2 hours ago, Oldddudders said:

But your tale reminds me of a Peter Cook & Dudley Moore story about apparently witnessing a threatened suicide, a bloke on a ledge with the traffic stopped etc.. "Jump you f****r!" was their supportive response. 

 

You're thinking of 'Jump', which I'm often tempted to sing in church.

[iL Dottore]

On the subject of useful buildings: I have two garage is (one at the holiday hovel) plus an underground, nuclear bomb proof, workshop at Schloss iD. But I don’t have a shed…..yet!

 

Being a “belt and braces (plus a piece of a long string)“ kind of fellow, not only have I bought a jar of “instant shed“ (as advertised on Early Risers), I have a DIY shed kit and, as back up, a little woodworking man with a plan. I am also thinking of commissioning a shed architect to design a state of the art 21st century carbon neutral high-tech shed or maybe that’s a bit over the top?

What do you think?

Edited June 14, 2023 by iL Dottore
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