Ohmisterporter Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 The Ffestiniog Railway's engines all have numbers but are usually referred to by their names. The exception, temporarily, is No. 5 that has not yet been given its Welsh Pony nameplates. I was wondering if any standard gauge engines ever carried the No. prefix? I guess that it would have been on early engines, but most of them were given names. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jeremy Cumberland Posted September 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2020 What, like this, you mean? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmisterporter Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 Carried on the bufferbeam but not on cabside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I've no doubt umpteen industrial locos - with single digit numbers in particular - would have carried the 'No.' prefix. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 There was one industrial numbered. "Owners name" No 0 Can't remember who owned it. A steelworks or colliery. But it was a proper plate with the other locomotives having numbers in the usual sequence. Jason 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmisterporter Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 Locomotives numbered 0 are rare in their own right but with a No. prefix, doubly so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I can't remember where it was. It was somewhere like Staveley Iron Company. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: I've no doubt umpteen industrial locos - with single digit numbers in particular - would have carried the 'No.' prefix. Certainly as part of a longer name. "Monkton No. 1" is currently at Embsay, there were numerous others. Saved having to think of a new name every time I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) Here are a couple I took pics of back in 1968 at Bressingham Museum. Stewart Edited September 7, 2020 by stewartingram 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jeremy Cumberland Posted September 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: There was one industrial numbered. "Owners name" No 0 Can't remember who owned it. A steelworks or colliery. But it was a proper plate with the other locomotives having numbers in the usual sequence. Jason This one, I presume, which I had not heard of till you mentioned it, but a web search soon found it: https://oakparkrunnerssnippets.wordpress.com/2018/01/10/rothervale-no-0/ The Wikipedia page for Orgreave Colliery (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgreave_Colliery) says it was Rothervale No 1 until a new Rothervale No 1 was bought in 1929. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jeremy C said: This one, I presume, which I had not heard of till you mentioned it, but a web search soon found it: https://oakparkrunnerssnippets.wordpress.com/2018/01/10/rothervale-no-0/ The Wikipedia page for Orgreave Colliery (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgreave_Colliery) says it was Rothervale No 1 until a new Rothervale No 1 was bought in 1929. Yes. That's the beastie. What a numpty restoring the plate. Lost most of it's value. As any collector will tell you, you don't ever clean them.... Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatC Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Have alook at the Dinorwic quarry Hunslets. Lady Joan was origianlly 'named' No 1 and carried a nice brass nameplate to that effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jeremy C said: This one, I presume, which I had not heard of till you mentioned it, but a web search soon found it: https://oakparkrunnerssnippets.wordpress.com/2018/01/10/rothervale-no-0/ The Wikipedia page for Orgreave Colliery (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgreave_Colliery) says it was Rothervale No 1 until a new Rothervale No 1 was bought in 1929. There's an article about Rothervale No. 0 in Railway Bylines Vol 24 issue 5 April 2019. Ray. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jeremy Cumberland Posted September 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, PatC said: Have alook at the Dinorwic quarry Hunslets. Lady Joan was origianlly 'named' No 1 and carried a nice brass nameplate to that effect. Apart from having had (at different times) two "No. 1"s (Rough Pup and Lady Joan) and two "No. 2"s (Cloister and Dolbadarn), Dinorwic also used ordinal numbers with "THE FIRST" (later Bernstein and now Jonathan) and "THE SECOND" (Covertcoat). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted September 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) The Furzebrook Tramway named its locos Primus, Secundus, Tertius, Quartus, Quintus, Sextus and Septimus Edited September 8, 2020 by Andy Kirkham 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Andy Kirkham said: The Furzebrook Tramway named it locos Primus, Secundus, Tertius, Quartus, Quintus, Sextus and Septimus Sounds like a Monty Python sketch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 43 minutes ago, Andy Kirkham said: The Furzebrook Tramway named it locos Primus, Secundus, Tertius, Quartus, Quintus, Sextus and Septimus 43 minutes ago, Andy Kirkham said: Did Jacob Rees-Mogg have an interest? 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Piewalker Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted September 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2020 I've just ordered a Hornby Peckett 'Forest no.1' but may well change it's identity. A Rule 1 reworking of the loco's history will have it sold on from Charity, not scrapped but passed to a dealer who eventually sold it to Cwmdimbath Colliery, during the process of which it picked up a new name though there is debate about whether this happened before or when the colliery acquired it and the local story is that the saddle tank had rotted and was replaced with one from another W4, complete with nameplates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumata Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) On 07/09/2020 at 19:07, Jeremy C said: This one, I presume, which I had not heard of till you mentioned it, but a web search soon found it: https://oakparkrunnerssnippets.wordpress.com/2018/01/10/rothervale-no-0/ The Wikipedia page for Orgreave Colliery (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgreave_Colliery) says it was Rothervale No 1 until a new Rothervale No 1 was bought in 1929. Forgive my ignorance, but what would have been the logic in renaming the old no. 1 to 0, rather than numbering the new loco as the next in sequence? Edited September 9, 2020 by Kumata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted September 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) Weren't the A4’s numbered from No.1 onwards initially in 1948... certainly I remeber seeing Bittern in Blue at Dinting with No.19 on. (not my picture) Theres a picture if no22 Mallard arriving at Waterloo on ebay, during the 1948 exchanges. Edited September 11, 2020 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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