jcredfer Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Brian D said: A couple of blokes who used to rally a bit, without being heard of much, and Bernie's ex, OMG. Should LH decide to jack it in I wouldn't blame him but I would hope he carries on. This business reeks of getting the only black driver out of the paddock. I seriously hope he stays for 2022 and fights back against the new F1 establishment. 8 years on, it's a bit late for that sort of idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) Over reaction much? Masi seems to have applied the rules incorrectly in order to have an exciting race to the finish rather than a dull safety car procession. He was only able to make that mistake because Latifi crashed. Who I somewhat doubt is in on a conspiracy to make the grid a whites only zone. Particularly since Latifi's father was born Mehrdad Latifi in Tehran, so he's no whiter than Lewis. Edited December 17, 2021 by Zomboid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, jcredfer said: 8 years on, it's a bit late for that sort of idea. Not an idea, just a comment having watched the race and looking at media reports in the days since the injustice mate. Feel free to expand on your one liner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Sounds like a NASTY BIT OF SH1T. Ben Sulayem warns ‘no forgiveness’ if Hamilton breached rules https://racer.com/2021/12/17/ben-sulayem-warns-no-forgiveness-if-hamilton-breached-rules/?fbclid=IwAR3Rv2xKNPuqF0LwEmEDHDG4NfgUWASCxhXbj37ok98Z1WyjOi4bJGqm274 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted December 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Andrew P said: Sounds like a NASTY BIT OF SH1T. Ben Sulayem warns ‘no forgiveness’ if Hamilton breached rules https://racer.com/2021/12/17/ben-sulayem-warns-no-forgiveness-if-hamilton-breached-rules/?fbclid=IwAR3Rv2xKNPuqF0LwEmEDHDG4NfgUWASCxhXbj37ok98Z1WyjOi4bJGqm274 Only Hamilton? or has MV and RB been forgiven? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 New FIA administration to decide over sanction for Hamilton’s prizegiving absence. https://www.racefans.net/2021/12/17/new-fia-administration-to-decide-on-sanction-for-hamilton-over-prizegiving-absence/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zomboid said: Over reaction much? Masi seems to have applied the rules incorrectly in order to have an exciting race to the finish rather than a dull safety car procession. He was only able to make that mistake because Latifi crashed. I somewhat doubt he's in on a conspiracy to make the grid a whites only zone. Particularly since Latifi's father was born in Tehran. So Tehran is maybe where "black" folk come from. Pushing the boundaries mate with your argument imho. My comment related to the new constitution of the F1 board who presumably will sort everything out knowing not a lot and maybe just p!issing off LH even further with this alleged threat of sanctions for not turning up for Christmas party. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: Only Hamilton? or has MV and RB been forgiven? What have they done that hasn't already been dealt with and closed? AFAIK the only thing that LH & MB have done that isn't closed is the ceremony thing. That's pretty inflamatory language he's using there, but we'll see what they actually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Brian D said: So Tehran is maybe where "black" folk come from. Pushing the boundaries mate with your argument imho. I didn't say that, I said that he's not white because his father was born Iranian (though I think he now has Canadian nationality). But the point was actually that what happened the other day was a result of a bunch of things, which all started with Latifi crashing, which makes it unlikely to be any kind of conspiracy as he would have had to do it deliberately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 QUESTION. = As Lewis returned to UK for his knighthood, could he LEAGALY return to France for the ceremony without isolating as other F1 Team members have to do? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 FIA perhaps too lenient with F1 team criticisms, says Todt https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia-perhaps-too-lenient-with-f1-team-criticisms-says-todt/6886287/?fbclid=IwAR1KrCm9KgZWdVNOV41qwyjhHLv7aWp-nEmnAMmqLZ5sDtpp0R1wwt-bAp8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Welcoming home our Champions. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 17, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Andrew P said: QUESTION. = As Lewis returned to UK for his knighthood, could he LEAGALY return to France for the ceremony without isolating as other F1 Team members have to do? He has to have an awfully good reason to enter France at all. I can go back as I am a resident. Sherry could not come and visit me, as she is not. Lewis and Toto are putting the FIA on the spot, and F1 fans everywhere other than Holland (and maybe part of Wales!) are after the FIA's scalp. This could run and run. 6 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, Brian D said: Not an idea, just a comment having watched the race and looking at media reports in the days since the injustice mate. Feel free to expand on your one liner. 37 minutes ago, Brian D said: A couple of blokes who used to rally a bit, without being heard of much, and Bernie's ex, OMG. Should LH decide to jack it in I wouldn't blame him but I would hope he carries on. This business reeks of getting the only black driver out of the paddock. I seriously hope he stays for 2022 and fights back against the new F1 establishment. 8 years on, your comment is somewhat short on supporting evidence, but you are quite welcome to publish your thoughts. Have a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Zomboid said: I didn't say that, I said that he's not white because his father was born Iranian (though I think he now has Canadian nationality). But the point was actually that what happened the other day was a result of a bunch of things, which all started with Latifi crashing, which makes it unlikely to be any kind of conspiracy as he would have had to do it deliberately. FIA are the conspiracy crew, and possibly mistreating a black, and proud of it, driver. Did you not focus on what happened at the end of the race? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, jcredfer said: 8 years on, your comment is somewhat short on supporting evidence, but you are quite welcome to publish your thoughts. Have a good day. Hmm, double quotes, I'm blessed. Sweet dreams. I obviously didn't sway you with my argument but hey ho such is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 I know what happened. The point is that for it to be a conspiracy then Latifi would have had to be in on it. And I don't believe for a minute that he would have been. If he hadn't crashed then none of the rest would have happened. Coincidentally, both Latifi and Hamilton have one white and one non-white parent, which IMO makes it even more unlikely that he'd be involved in a racist conspiracy against Hamilton. The most likely explanation to me is that Masi played fast and loose with the rules in order to have a racing finish to the closest season in ages, rather than a safety car procession. Cock up, not conspiracy. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted December 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, Andrew P said: QUESTION. = As Lewis returned to UK for his knighthood, could he LEAGALY return to France for the ceremony without isolating as other F1 Team members have to do? 21 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: He has to have an awfully good reason to enter France at all. I can go back as I am a resident. Sherry could not come and visit me, as she is not. Lewis and Toto are putting the FIA on the spot, and F1 fans everywhere other than Holland (and maybe part of Wales!) are after the FIA's scalp. This could run and run. Doesn't LH reside in Monte Carlo? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Zomboid said: I know what happened. The point is that for it to be a conspiracy then Latifi would have had to be in on it. And I don't believe for a minute that he would have been. If he hadn't crashed then none of the rest would have happened. Coincidentally, both Latifi and Hamilton have one white and one non-white parent, which IMO makes it even more unlikely that he'd be involved in a racist conspiracy against Hamilton. The most likely explanation to me is that Masi played fast and loose with the rules in order to have a racing finish to the closest season in ages, rather than a safety car procession. Cock up, not conspiracy. Wasn't saying Latifi was part of the conspiracy ffs, once the crash happened FIA pounced on it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 But what possible purpose would forcing Lewis out serve? He's an all time great of the sport, and the whole thing will be diminished when he does eventually hang it up. Who benefits if he quits? 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted December 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2021 BREAKING NEWS!! LEWIS HAMILTON TO RETIRE!! It has been reported he wishes to leave f1 to persue a career in music, however his request to join the group, Musical Youth, was rejected on the basis that he could not pass the dutchie on the left hand side!! shamelessly stolen from a friend on Facebook 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Saying goodbye to Valtteri Bottas in style. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted December 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2021 10 hours ago, Andrew P said: New FIA administration to decide over sanction for Hamilton’s prizegiving absence. https://www.racefans.net/2021/12/17/new-fia-administration-to-decide-on-sanction-for-hamilton-over-prizegiving-absence/ 10 second penalty? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sidecar Racer Posted December 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, PhilJ W said: Doesn't LH reside in Monte Carlo? But he would have to travel through France , last time I looked Monte Carlo did'nt have an airport . Edited December 18, 2021 by Sidecar Racer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 People travelling from Britain into France have too have a valid reason to enter the country under new French restrictions……….to attend a prize gala organised by a bunch of cheats and liars does not in my opinion seem a valid reason to travel 6 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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