carlwebus Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Hi All Here are four more mysteries from my collection. The question for all is "what and where" (for 7 & 9 its also "when"): Photo 7 is plainly GWR pannier passing what looks like a disused station - possibly hauling a Mk1 brake non-compartment? Photo 8 looks like some sort of loading platform and / or coaling stage. Is that water bottom right? Date is given as 26 June 1969 Photo 9 may not even be UK. Look at the profile of the carriage windows etc. Photo 11 is Britannia 70024 and dated 22 June 1967. At that date, according to brdatabase, "Vulcan" was a Carlisle Kingmoor loco but the landscape looks a bit flat for that area? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 In 7 the coach is a late GWR non-corridor brake 3rd. Shame the number is out of sight though. Might even be a Hawkesworth given the low height of the curve. In 10 the coaches with steps look to be the Nord 'Express' type, and the first two Nord 'Rapide', so probably Northern France. Loco might be a 141R. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted January 5, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2021 I would say that photo 8 certainly does have water at the bottom of it. I would even go as far as saying that there is a very small wave breaking, possibly the wash from a boat or from the sea. ( I would guess that it is the sea as there appears to be a tide line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted January 5, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2021 Afraid I can't help with any of the locations, but I notice in photo 7 the bridge seen at the end of the platforms also carries a railway. Hope this might help the GWR officianardos to I'd the location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 No.7 is Neath Riverside on the former Neath & Brecon line. Brecon is a likely destination for the train pictured - so no later than 1962. I wondered if no.9 might be in the rugged "arrière pays" between Calais and Boulogne and whether the train, given the stock it is formed of, might be a (British) enthusiasts' special. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, bécasse said: wondered if no.9 might be in the rugged "arrière pays" between Calais and Boulogne I thought that too, but was lacking in confidence to mention it until you did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I've done a lot of prep and research for an N gauge layout based on Pihen-les-Guines in 1965 and that looked like the kind of train that would run through there then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2021 8 hours ago, BernardTPM said: 7 the coach is a late GWR non-corridor brake 3rd. Shame the number is out of sight though. Might even be a Hawkesworth given the low height of the curve Hawksworth non-gangwayed brake 3rd, and the location is definitely Neath Riverside, but I would have thought the train was heading for the Vale of Neath line rather than the Neath and Brecon, as the the Brecon trains were gangwayed stock to provide toilet facilities on this 2 hour plus journey. Neath to Treherbert trains via the R & SB and Rhondda Tunnel were also gangwayed, and usually hauled by panniers. The line carried on the bridge at the end of the platform is the SWML, which leaves Neath General in the Swansea direction around a sharp left hand curve of nearly 180 degrees and climbs steeply towards Skewen straight off the end of the platform, crossing this bridge in the process. There is alleged to be an Icthyasaurus fossil in one of the rock cuttings on this bank, but I've never seen it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2021 Neath Riverside pic on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neath_and_Brecon_Railway#/media/File:Neath_Riverside_station.jpg And a more recent view 29Nov19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlwebus Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 Thanks to all responders. We're really getting somewhere. No 7 really sorted! No 9 probably. Re: 8 I wonder if its the same place as the pic now attached - which I think is Northern Ireland (LMS/ NCC)? Nothing yet on No.11: the Brit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted January 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2021 4 is Gravesend West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) It does look a lot like it now you say, but what loco is that if it is? I can’t square it as anything southern - I thought it might be something LMS or GWR. And, I don’t think the building in the distance quite matches - very similar, but not the same. I tend to go with the NCC feeling, and that the loco is a jinty (no it’s not, the windows are wrong). Could it be an ex-SL&NC 0-6-4T? Edited January 6, 2021 by Nearholmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 The Brit looks like somewhere between Lancaster and Carlisle on the WCML. Tebay? Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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