RMweb Gold 55020 Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, TheSignalEngineer said: It looks as if at least 10 aircraft operated by Phoenix Air are registered under five different names in the same building. Very useful if you don't want direct links to your activities like one recently being used in the 'Extradition' of a wanted person with drug cartel links in Central America. Very interesting. I haven't had the time to search for the official owner lodged with the FAA. Good sluething Mr Sherlock. Steve 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 The withdrawal is complete. A wave of C17’s in close trail, with lots of KC135 tankers have left Afghan airspace, heading back to the various Gulf air bases. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Ron Ron Ron said: the Voyager was supporting either RAF fighters, or USN or Marines off the carrier(s) stationed in the Arabian Sea Personally, if I were one of the Voyager's crew and a USMC Harrier came calling for fuel, I would have cheered loudly. Or burst into tears at the reminder that we sold/scrapped our Harriers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, KeithMacdonald said: ……Tbilisi in Georgia seems to be a favourite stop-over for charter flights to & from Kulob, also in Tajakistan, just over the northern border with Afghanistan. @Ron Ron Ron's plain white A320 is there now, and this A321 just took off from there as well. https://www.flightradar24.com/HFM325/28f87f13 Collecting certain high ranking members of the deposed regime and taking them to a safe exile, perhaps? The Kam Air B737 has returned from Tbilisi. That’s a number of flights in and out of Mazar-i-Sherif today. On Al Jazeera, they were saying the UN wish to set up a humanitarian aid centre there. Meanwhile, there is now no air traffic control for the whole of Afghanistan airspace, nor for it’s airports or former air bases, with the possible exception of Mazar-i-Sherif in the north. . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, PMP said: There’s no adapter. They’re either one or the other. As I said earlier, except where a KC135 is fitted with an adapter to allow it to refuel USN or USM aircraft. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted August 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ron Ron Ron said: As I said earlier, except where a KC135 is fitted with an adapter to allow it to refuel USN or USM aircraft. The question was do the RAF have that facility They don’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, Ron Ron Ron said: A wave of C17’s in close trail Moose 81, 85, 94, 86, 83 and 88? (88 was visible, now not) The US-registered plane now closest to Kabul is a United Airline flight UAL899 from Delhi to Chicago passing east of Kulob. https://www.flightradar24.com/UAL899/28f87469 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, PMP said: The question was do the RAF have that facility They don’t. I had already answered that in a following post. You must have missed the conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ron Ron Ron said: The withdrawal is complete. A wave of C17’s in close trail, with lots of KC135 tankers have left Afghan airspace, heading back to the various Gulf air bases. More aircraft have left the house. RC-135W Rivet Joint - Python 51 B-52H - Grimm 21 AC-130W gunship - Reach 1014 E-11A - BlackWolf 12 plus some more tankers KC- 135’s and KC-10’s unknown type or formation- Abide 07 travelling at very high speed. E-3C Sentry (AWACS) - Whistler 51 If the AWACS is out, that must be a wrap. [Edit: 3 more gunship and special ops C-130’s following on. They will have been overtaken by the earlier (last) wave above.] . Edited August 30, 2021 by Ron Ron Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted August 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31, 2021 Interest shifting this morning Unidentified plane took off from Lakenheath about 0850BST, heading north. Looks to be escorted by an F15 to deter followers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted August 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31, 2021 Could be a tanker as now circling off Hull. A Stratotanker from Mildenhall also circling off Skegness. Possibly serving fighters on home runs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) TARTN 29, a Voyager, is currently just north of Newcastle heading for one of the North Sea tanker towlines. I suspect there's something going on in one of the North Sea training areas rather than anything operational. EDIT - Also, SPCTRE11, a Cobham Air FA20, has just arrived off the East Yorks coast from Bournemouth so definitely some training going on. Edited August 31, 2021 by Wheatley 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 56 minutes ago, TheSignalEngineer said: Interest shifting this morning Unidentified plane took off from Lakenheath about 0850BST, heading north. Looks to be escorted by an F15 to deter followers. 48 minutes ago, TheSignalEngineer said: Could be a tanker as now circling off Hull. A Stratotanker from Mildenhall also circling off Skegness. Possibly serving fighters on home runs? 42 minutes ago, Wheatley said: TARTN 29, a Voyager, is currently just north of Newcastle heading for one of the North Sea tanker towlines. I suspect there's something going on in one of the North Sea training areas rather than anything operational. EDIT - Also, SPCTRE11, a Cobham Air FA20, has just arrived off the East Yorks coast from Bournemouth so definitely some training going on. Nothing unusual or special. It’s Tuesday morning, instead of the usual Monday morning. The military are back to work as they are at the start of every week, weather permitting. This is the normal sort of training that goes on all the time. Absolutely nothing to do with activities further afield. The North Sea is where most of the training areas are for all the bases on the east coast and east Anglia. Those aircraft are operating in the designated training areas, doing all the usual stuff. The Cobham (FR aviation) Falcons are a regular part of day to day training, both up in the north east ( army on the ranges, or RAF out over the sea) and in the south west for the RN. They carry out all sorts of duties, such as acting as radar targets, simulating Exocet type missiles for the Navy, target towing, electronic warfare tasks, practice intercepts for air defence etc, etc. The tankers are out there both for air-to-air refuelling training and to provide a Towline to allow exercise aircraft to get a “top-up” when needed. All in a regular day’s work. . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 There’s still some evacuation or withdrawal activity going on for Afghanistan today. C17 and C-130 aircraft shuttling in and out of Islamabad, Pakistan, next door. One possibility is retrieving helicopters and personnel that flew out into neighbouring Pakistan. If they had special forces and helicopter gunships helping to cover the last troop flights out of Kabul, they wouldn’t have been able to recover them from there. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted August 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) Some REACH transports active from gulf airfields towards Europe and couple out of Germany now over Atlantic heading west. Edited August 31, 2021 by TheSignalEngineer Typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 UN flight UNO356H did a loop from Rawalpindi out to Mazar-i-Sharif and back (without landing at Mazar-i-Sharif) https://www.flightradar24.com/UNO356H/28f98d38 Some Moose flights are now into Rawalpindi https://www.flightradar24.com/MOOSE44/28f97a45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, TheSignalEngineer said: Some REACH transports active grom gulf airfields towards Europe and couple out of Germany now over Atlantic heading west. Transferring these people perhaps? Quote A total of 18,700 evacuees from Afghanistan have arrived at the US Ramstein Air Base in south-western Germany on some 76 military transport flights, according to a spokesperson for the base on Friday. More than 4,100 evacuees had already travelled on to the US, the spokesperson said, and flights will continue throughout the weekend. https://warisboring.com/18700-afghan-evacuees-have-arrived-at-us-army-base-in-germany/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, KeithMacdonald said: Transferring these people perhaps? Maybe. There are a lot of chartered civil airliners coming out of the Gulf area as well. There are also some 9,000 troops to get back to Europe or home to the US. That's a lot of flights in itself. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) Kabul Airport this morning. The image can be zoomed in (click on it), to see the abandoned aircraft, including many already derelict, withdrawn from use, old airliners. 2 C130's left. No doubt unserviceable and terminally disabled. Edited August 31, 2021 by Ron Ron Ron 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 The amount of military gear the Yanks have left behind abandoned is beyond imagination. This from an aviation forum. Beyond belief. Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, APOLLO said: The amount of military gear the Yanks have left behind abandoned is beyond imagination. This from an aviation forum. Beyond belief. Brit15 It's to be hoped that they haven't got anyone trained to operate the heavier stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 The 'dumping' of military gear on leaving was, and still is, commonplace. Much that has been left, has been done so for a reason..IE, its broken or otherwise unusable. For example, most of the aircraft either cannot fly at all, or will soon be grounded through lack of access to spares, or qualified ground staff. On the other hand, if the current regime [aka taliban.....is that really what the call themselves? Or is it a western media thing?} are to subdue or elimiante any terrorist upstarts, they need some simple means of doing so. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, alastairq said: On the other hand, if the current regime [aka taliban.....is that really what the call themselves? Or is it a western media thing?} are to subdue or elimiante any terrorist upstarts, they need some simple means of doing so. I'm thinking along these lines also. Damned if you do and damned if you don't over there. History has told us several times that you can't win over there - leave them to it. Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted August 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Ron Ron Ron said: Nothing unusual or special. It’s Tuesday morning, instead of the usual Monday morning. The military are back to work as they are at the start of every week, weather permitting. This is the normal sort of training that goes on all the time. It brings back memories of summers in North Devon when Chivenor was doing Hawker Hunters. They were often out over the Bristol Channel. It got a bit frantic at the end of the month if the regulars hadn't got enough flying hours in. They would do a couple of trips cliff hugging from Ilfracombe to Minehead or do a low level trip across the sea to entertain the Taffs around Porthcawl and Barry. Some of them could get so close to the water you could see the wake from the top of the cliffs. Edited August 31, 2021 by TheSignalEngineer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Things are getting back to normal over the North Sea? Eurofighter Typhoon FGR.4's out to play:- https://www.flightradar24.com/CHAOS011/28fb5115 https://www.flightradar24.com/RAMPAG21/28fb57f9 https://www.flightradar24.com/RAMPAG22/28fb584b With KC2 Voyager https://www.flightradar24.com/TTN28/28fb340c Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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