Unkown GWRly tank engine.

[micknich2003]

I bought this some years ago, no details except an ESSAR box.

[Steamport Southport]

Jamieson?

 

Yes. I think it is.

 

https://www.hattons.co.uk/stocklistdatabase/369769/jamieson_eames_kits_jpannier_0_6_0_57xx_pannier_steam_locomotive_gwr_br_kit_wheels_not_included_/stockdetail

 

Jason

Edited May 5, 2022 by Steamport Southport

[dunwurken]

Not an Essar mechanism but Reidmere of this parish is a Stewart Reidpath / Essar collector and may be able to provide more info 're the box and it's original contents.

Malcolm

[Il Grifone]

It appears to be a Zenith/early Tri-ang motor driving Romford wheels, My first thoughts on the body (once I'd eliminated Gaiety) were Jamieson.

[D51]

The motor is a Zenith X3, also called a Gem X3. 

I think the body is from an R M Evans kit.  This was before the Jamieson kit.  The differences were that the Jamieson kit used bent square section brass for the valances, the Evans kit had stamped valances;  Evans used a brass dome whereas I think Jamieson were cast.

The Essar box has nothing at all to do with the loco!

 

R M Evans was in business in the early 1950s which is contemporary with the Zenith motor, although stocks of this motor were still available in the early 1960s.

R M Evans was Martin Evans who later concentrated on large scale live steam and wrote for years in 'Model Engineer'.

I believe when he gave up the small scale business many of his tools were sold to Keyser who went on make the famous K's kits.

 

Frank

[Wolseley]

A page from The Model Railway Encyclopaedia by Ernest F Carter (1950 edition):

 

[Barclay]

I built an RM Evans body kit, of an LMS 3F tank, a few years ago, and there do appear to be similarities:

 

Stamped(?) brass smokebox door

Splasher sides turned up from the running plate

Steps are stamped from one piece, with the middle step folded back on itself. Can't quite see if yours does that?

 

However my boiler and Belpaire firebox are a single stamping, whereas the pannier appears to have a fabricated firebox?

 

[Reidmere]

Mick,

 

What's the serial number and price on the end of Essar Box please?

 

Thanks

 

John

[micknich2003]

John, the serial No looks to be 570 or possibly 5451, the price is 2 x x. The box is very faded and part torn. Best Wishes, Mick.

[Il Grifone]

Zooming in, the serial no. appears to be 575A and the price £2/something, but it is rather indistinct and the handwriting leaves something to be desired.

 

 

[41516]

On 05/05/2022 at 15:11, Steamport Southport said:

Jamieson?

 

 

 

I think those wheel cut outs give me the parentage of this poorly lump of pannier that arrived in a job lot of wagon parts last year!