luke_stevens Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Shapeways already has 66 items (13/06/22) of British prototypes to 1:120https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace/miniatures/trains?q=&sort=&facet[pdcId][]=134&facet[pdcId][]=368&facet[price][min]=1&facet[price][max]=2500&facet[price][from]=1&facet[price][to]=2500 I particularly like the Night Ferry stock and the EM2, not that i can work out ho to combine them at this moment... Luke 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted June 13, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, luke_stevens said: We have so little that anything would be good, but here goes. Diesel BoBo Diesel CoCo Coaches - say Mk1's - 1 SK, SO, BFK Steam Express passenger Steam mixed traffic Shunter steam or diesel container flat 2 axle van / open brake van Luke I should think a Class 25, a Class 37, a couple of Mark 1s (in lots of liveries), a steam 0-6-0, Steam 4-6-0 some wagons (16t steel mineral to go with the 7-plank) and vans with a BR 20T brake van would all be required for a good start. I dont think the future of this is for people who want to do much tinkering. If they want to do that theres 3mm on 14.2mm track, or 2mm finescale, if they lack space. Its clear (to me) that this will be aimed at those who will expect a certain amount of RTR to be available. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium NCB Posted June 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Flittersnoop said: Peco didn't invent TT-120, did they? They're just making track that existing Eastern European models can run on. In the current economic climate I don't think that there's a cat in Hades' chance of any company making any British outline RTR stock for TT-120. In the current economic climate companies need sales and new ground breaking products are more likely to sell than yet another rehash. And it should be noted that Peco have priced their TT products at quite a competitive level. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Moria15 Posted June 13, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, luke_stevens said: I was thinking the same... Of course the Express Steam has to be live steam... Luke Shouldn't be too hard... considering live steam was available in 1/240th scale built in 1973 by A.A Sherwood. I mean that was 49 years ago. Maybe live steam is preparing for a 50th anniversary next year :) http://www.zen98812.zen.co.uk/steam.html Graham Edited June 13, 2022 by Moria15 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium NCB Posted June 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2022 17 hours ago, Ravenser said: We perhaps need to be realistic about what is possible There is no way TT-120 will displace N. That battle was fought in the 1960s, when TT had a stronger position - and N rapidly swept TT into total commercial oblivion in every market in the free world Triang dropped TT because traders proved very reluctant to stock two scales; it was a different world back then. Today the online marketplace means that customers can buy direct. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldomtom2 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) For steam locomotives I suggest the following, as they all have some degree of foreign appeal and were fairly widely used at home: Austerity 2-8-0 Dean Goods Hunslet Austerity/J94 Jinty O4/8K 2-8-0 Stanier 8F USATC S100 Edited June 13, 2022 by eldomtom2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flittersnoop Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, NCB said: In the current economic climate companies need sales and new ground breaking products are more likely to sell than yet another rehash. And it should be noted that Peco have priced their TT products at quite a competitive level. A ground-breaking product would be something like a Class 120 DMU or a Maunsell U class 2-6-0, that people can run on their existing layouts. The number of UK modellers that are just sitting around thinking that what they really want to do is start a new layout for which they can buy a limited range of track and a couple of kits for buildings must be... hardly any. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 40 minutes ago, luke_stevens said: We have so little that anything would be good, but here goes. Diesel BoBo Diesel CoCo Coaches - say Mk1's - 1 SK, SO, BFK Steam Express passenger Steam mixed traffic Shunter steam or diesel container flat 2 axle van / open brake van Luke Sounds like the basis for the SVR fleet! That would go with the GWR buildings as well... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 26 minutes ago, Moria15 said: Shouldn't be too hard... considering live steam was available in 1/240th scale built in 1973 by A.A Sherwood. I mean that was 49 years ago. Maybe live steam is preparing for a 50th anniversary next year :) http://www.zen98812.zen.co.uk/steam.html Graham And what about a working GWR gas turbine? :) Luke 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, eldomtom2 said: For steam locomotives I suggest the following, as they all have some degree of foreign appeal and were fairly widely used at home: Austerity 2-8-0 Dean Goods Hunslet Austerity/J94 Jinty O4/8K 2-8-0 Stanier 8F USATC S100 I agree those would be logical, but I would still put "Mallard" and "Flying Scotsman" on that list. Outside the UK they are "known". Luke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2022 39 minutes ago, luke_stevens said: Shapeways already has 66 items (13/06/22) of British prototypes to 1:120https://www.shapeways.com/marketplace/miniatures/trains?q=&sort=&facet[pdcId][]=134&facet[pdcId][]=368&facet[price][min]=1&facet[price][max]=2500&facet[price][from]=1&facet[price][to]=2500 I particularly like the Night Ferry stock and the EM2, not that i can work out ho to combine them at this moment... Luke Many are 3mm scale 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 All the TTn3 stuff is it's 3mm scale using 9mm gauge for 3ft NG. Some good layouts been built, however there's also a lot of TTm stuff if you change the country filter to Germany, its pretty good as well I have some. 1:120 scale, 9mm gauge for metre gauge prototype. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, melmerby said: Many are 3mm scale Yes, including the Titfield Thunderbolt, but still worth looking for specific 1:120 :) Luke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 This was my TT wishlist back in the early 60's !!!! I still have my old TT, virtually worn out and yes one (or more) of everything above, and more. If only I had some track and points to run it on ----------- !!!!!!!!!!!!! Brit15 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium andythenorth Posted June 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2022 40 minutes ago, Flittersnoop said: The number of UK modellers that are just sitting around thinking that what they really want to do is start a new layout for which they can buy a limited range of track and a couple of kits for buildings must be... hardly any. Probably not zero though. There's something appealing about novelty. There's something appealing about a limited range of choices for rolling stock. Whether that produces enough sales to make it sustainable...remains to be seen. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Moria15 Posted June 13, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2022 59 minutes ago, Flittersnoop said: The number of UK modellers that are just sitting around thinking that what they really want to do is start a new layout for which they can buy a limited range of track and a couple of kits for buildings must be... hardly any. Well, I'm in... just started looking into my next layout with a move up from N gauge and this is awesome news since I see this as a new scale to experiment with. My ideas for the next layout were pushing me towards having to scratchbuild a lot of stuff anyway, but 1:120 with 12mm track for standard and 18mm track for the broad gauge should make all of that a lot easier with a lot of bits available for both gauges such as wheels, axles, etc etc. I already have the 3d printer and was just having a little angst about N gauge broad gauge, so I'll probably dive into 1:120 and see what happens :) Don't see that making dual gauge track would be harder in 1:120 than in N gauge. Graham 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 8 hours ago, Dunsignalling said: With a linear difference of 20%, I'd consider that to be putting it very mildly! 15% smaller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted June 13, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, AndyID said: 15% smaller. I calculated it from the other end - 3mm is 20% bigger than 2.5mm. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, AndyID said: 15% smaller. 2.5 mm/ft scale (or 1:120) is 16.7% smaller than 3 mm/ft scale (or 1:100); 3 mm/ft scale (or 1:100) is 20% bigger than 2.5 mm/ft scale (or 1:120). For the avoidance of ambiguity, perhaps it's clearer to say that the two scales stand in the ratio 5:6. Oops - crossed with @Dunsignalling. Edited June 13, 2022 by Compound2632 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Dunsignalling said: I calculated it from the other end - 3mm is 20% bigger than 2.5mm. No, it's 18% bigger. Still quite a lot though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted June 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, AndyID said: No, it's 18% bigger. Still quite a lot though. How did you get that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted June 13, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2022 Just now, AndyID said: No, it's 18% bigger. Still quite a lot though. 0.5 is 20% of 2.5 therefore 3 is 20% bigger. 0.5 is 16.67% of 3, not 15%. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Just now, Compound2632 said: 2.5 mm/ft scale (or 1:120) is 16.7% smaller than 3 mm/ft scale (or 1:100); 3 mm/ft scale (or 1:100) is 20% bigger than 2.5 mm/ft scale (or 1:120). Oops - crossed with @Dunsignalling. Not quite. Its actually 1:102 versus 1:120 and 2.54 mm versus 3 mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted June 13, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyID Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: How did you get that? 0.46/2.54 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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