RMweb Premium Keith Addenbrooke Posted February 23 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23 3 hours ago, Mol_PMB said: In response to the original question on this thread (appreciating that it was a while ago) I can thoroughly recommend the albums of Werner and Hans-Jorg Brutzer on Flickr, where you will find these five photos and about a million others. (edit: sorry for the exaggeration, the Brutzer albums contain only about a quarter of a million train photos!) To be fair, there are only about 1000 photos of Re460s, in these albums: https://www.flickr.com/photos/42309484@N03/albums/72157697407081361/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/42309484@N03/albums/72157671185315168/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/42309484@N03/albums/72157669142901437/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/42309484@N03/albums/72157671185509448/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/42309484@N03/albums/72157629845403314/ There is similar coverage for other classes should you be interested! A nice reminder how long the Re460 locos have been around, seeing them with mainly green coaches, Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOB 2002 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Keith Addenbrooke said: A nice reminder how long the Re460 locos have been around, seeing them with mainly green coaches, Keith. Scary isn’t it … I still consider them the ‘modern’ locos that displaced the ‘interesting’ stuff! 😳 Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreux_1991 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 7 hours ago, Mol_PMB said: In response to the original question on this thread (appreciating that it was a while ago) I can thoroughly recommend the albums of Werner and Hans-Jorg Brutzer on Flickr, where you will find these five photos and about a million others. (edit: sorry for the exaggeration, the Brutzer albums contain only about a quarter of a million train photos!) To be fair, there are only about 1000 photos of Re460s, in these albums: https://www.flickr.com/photos/42309484@N03/albums/72157697407081361/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/42309484@N03/albums/72157671185315168/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/42309484@N03/albums/72157669142901437/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/42309484@N03/albums/72157671185509448/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/42309484@N03/albums/72157629845403314/ There is similar coverage for other classes should you be interested! Also worth remembering / noting: between July 1993 (approximately 50 locomotives delivered) and November 1994 (approximately 100 locomotives delivered) due to poor reliability Re 460 were banned from IC services on the Geneva - Zurich main line, and many were used on goods and secondary services instead. LOKI spezial 6 'Die Simplon-Linie' shows Re 460s (on the front cover) hauling a mixed freight past Chillon, and (inside) hauling a goods train of mostly 4-wheel vans near Sion... 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonwis Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 12 hours ago, vectispete said: Can anyone distinguish what type the second coach along is? It appears to be SBB but taller than the first and all other SBB coaches beyond the 2 SNCF coaches. The answer goes back to your post of 18 November 2022 (!). The coach in question is what (from the 1970s onwards) SBB tended to call the 'RIC' type (which is confusing as some earlier types were dubbed 'RIC' as well). Nevertheless from the period depicted in the photo until the present day these standard 'UIC'-norm SBB international coaches were dubbed RIC . In SBB's own literature this type of coach is officially designated "Bm RIC type UIC" I think I may be repeating myself from ages ago, but these coaches were SBB's standard coach for international long distance trains. Altogether 480 were built. The first batch (Bm 2nd class) were built from 1966. The second coach in this train is specifically an ABm (1st 2nd composite) officially designated "ABm RIC typ UIC" from the batch 51 85 70000-70039, built 1971-72. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectispete Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Morning Gordonwis Thank you for linking the 2 photos as the same type of coach. In the photo of the full train the UIC looked taller ie a domed roof whereas the coach in Marktplasse looks lower. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyPenguin Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 23/11/2022 at 23:53, Gordonwis said: However with Lima models it is best to choose the more accurate later generation models. Generally with HO I find that the more accurate models are the ones with NEM Pockets/KKK Mech'. However, the wheels can be a bit wobbly - the el-cheapo eBay wheelsets cure this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonwis Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) 15 hours ago, vectispete said: Morning Gordonwis Thank you for linking the 2 photos as the same type of coach. In the photo of the full train the UIC looked taller ie a domed roof whereas the coach in Marktplasse looks lower. Pete "Marktplasse" threw me for a moment - but I went back to the picture and assume you meant the RIC coach crossing "Marktgasse" (Market Street) in Interlaken. The roof shape is the same on all 480 RIC coaches, just the photo angle might make it look different. And in the picture showing the international train the ABm RIC is marshalled next to a Swiss internal 'EW1' standard coach, all (EWI, EWII, EWIII) of which of course are famously low height, thus accentuating the dome of the RIC. For the record all EWI and EWII coaches are 3700mm tall above rail, RIC UIC are 4100mm tall ( ie over 1 foot taller) Edited February 25 by Gordonwis 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Frutigen Posted February 25 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25 On 23/02/2024 at 14:31, Mol_PMB said: I can thoroughly recommend the albums of Werner and Hans-Jorg Brutzer on Flickr, where you will find these five photos Thanks for posting those great photos. Now suitably inspired I've just ordered decoders to get my pair of Kato Re460s up and running on Obermatt. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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