AlfaZagato Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 I was wondering if there is an RTR or kit in OO of the linked brake van? https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/lnerbrake/h253EE913#h22d5eb41 Failing that, I was curious if there were any unusual brake vans that made appearances on the W&U during LNER ownership? I just ordered a Model Rail J70 in wartime livery. I'd like a suitable brake, and really enjoy unusual brake vans. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted September 14, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2022 I think it says 20T but it looks too short to be the 4 or 6 wheel vans that Falcon Brassworks did. D&S did a D56 but not sure what that looks like. Neither are available new unfortunately (and Falcon kits are known to be somewhat challenging). I don't think there has ever been an RTR, Perhaps @billbedford could be persuaded to have a crack at it? :) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Not me guv... not with those silly pointy angle irons holding up the roof. This is the standard GE brake van built from 1906. D56 was very similar but with properly attached corner posts. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted September 16, 2022 Author Share Posted September 16, 2022 A shame those two kits sound like the only options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Maybe @rapidoandy could be persuaded to produce one to go with the Wisbech and Upwell coaches that Rapido are bringing out. I've now ordered a C53 (J70) in GER livery, but unfortunately accompanying GER freight stock is a bit thin on the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 I'm working on Both the GER Dia 1 and 2 brake vans in 7mm and 4mm (EM/P4) at the moment I can't see why they wouldn't run on OO wheel sets. I'm doing both the 9ft WB and the 10ft6 WB versions both laster until the mid 1940's Marc 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 That's excellent to hear, @MarcD. Thank you for chiming in. Will it be an etched kit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 The vans are now available from the website, www.pregroupingrailways.com. Both the 4mm and the 7mm kits has a HD 3D printed body and roof with brass 3 point rocking compensation units that contain the brakes. It comes in two variants 9ft wheel base and 10ft3 wheel base. The only difference being the bolt heads on the sole bar and the shape of the running boards. The 4mm version is £35 and the 7mm £75. the body is also available in HO, S and G1(1:32) from the website (pregroupingrailways.com). When is says "on back order" it really should say manufactured to order. Marc 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 Excellent, thank you. I will likely put in an order in the next day or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy2305 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 03/10/2022 at 07:28, MarcD said: The vans are now available from the website, www.pregroupingrailways.com. Both the 4mm and the 7mm kits has a HD 3D printed body and roof with brass 3 point rocking compensation units that contain the brakes. It comes in two variants 9ft wheel base and 10ft3 wheel base. The only difference being the bolt heads on the sole bar and the shape of the running boards. The 4mm version is £35 and the 7mm £75. the body is also available in HO, S and G1(1:32) from the website (pregroupingrailways.com). When is says "on back order" it really should say manufactured to order. Marc Hi Marc What wheels are appropriate for these in the GE period? Standard 8 spoke wagon wheels, or something else? Many thanks James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Hi James I have photos of 3ft1 closed spoke wheels. Not sure how many spokes. Marc 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy2305 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just to muddy the waters... I was in discussion with a fellow GE modeller and he sent me this from Tatlow's book on LNER wagons: These appear to be 8 spoke wheels but with open spokes. - James 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Disc wheels were generally introduce around WW1, but the change over took many years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 Wheels were probably only replaced if necessary. As much as wagons were the lifeblood of a railway, railways seemed reluctant to truly invest in them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 The GER'S wagon wheel policy, as far as photos goes, is anything goes. If if fits fit it. I have photos of 5 planks fitted with plain spoke, open spoke, solid disc or even old coach wheels. I have even seen one wagon with disc on one end and open spokes on the other. Marc 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungrange Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 On 30/09/2022 at 17:14, MarcD said: I'm working on Both the GER Dia 1 and 2 brake vans in 7mm and 4mm (EM/P4) at the moment I can't see why they wouldn't run on OO wheel sets. I'm doing both the 9ft WB and the 10ft6 WB versions both lasted until the mid 1940's Marc On 03/10/2022 at 07:28, MarcD said: It comes in two variants 9ft wheel base and 10ft3 wheel base. The only difference being the bolt heads on the sole bar and the shape of the running boards. The 4mm version is £35 and the 7mm £75. the body is also available in HO, S and G1(1:32) from the website (pregroupingrailways.com). When is says "on back order" it really should say manufactured to order. Marc, In the above post, and on your website, you refer to a choice of a 9' or 10' 3" wheelbase, but the drawing in your previous post shows the wheelbase as being 10' 6", which I understand to be correct for a Diagram 1 vehicle built between 1895 and 1900. I understand that production of vans with a 9' wheelbase had ceased in 1894, but I note that doesn't align with the dates on your website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Hi David It's a typo it should be 10ft6. And I will up date the date the dates. Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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