Results - The 00 Wishlist Poll 2022

[BMacdermott]

Hello rogerzilla

 

Where are you seeing 'mint/unused' for £40-£50 please?

 

Brian

[rogerzilla]

28 minutes ago, BMacdermott said:

Hello rogerzilla

 

Where are you seeing 'mint/unused' for £40-£50 please?

 

Brian

Ebay.  I picked up an unused BR late crest one for £40 as the basis for a W class conversion, but never got around to it.  Sold prices are in the £40-50 range for nice ones.  It's a strangely unloved model.

 

I have a wartime black one that cost more, but that was a Modelzone special edition and was genuinely unopened.

 

 

[BMacdermott]

Hello rogerzilla

 

I have just had a look at eBay and can't see any 'mint/unused' for £40-£50. I guess you must have been lucky that day.

 

Bachmann seem to have made as many models of the N Class as they have as many other classes. Agreed that the N is 'similar' to the U - but the same can be said of the S15/N15 or many pannier tanks etc. 

 

Brian

 

 

[D9020 Nimbus]

The news reports when the N was introduced suggested that Bachmann were planning a U as a follow up. But of course it never happened.

[BMacdermott]

Hello everyone

 

We know that even if a loco or coach etc were to garner 10,000 votes or more each Poll, the item wouldn't be made unless a maker can visualise a return on investment.

 

However, I thought some might like to see how the U Class has fared in The Top 50 since the 2013 Poll...

 

2013 - 15th

2014 -14th

2015 - 4th

2016 - 2nd

2018 - 4th

2019 - 5th

2022 - Top-voted

 

The Poll didn't run in 2017, 2020 and 2021.

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Poll Team)

 

 

[rogerzilla]

The serious modellers want "useful" locos that would have been common on the line being modelled (or at least the line used for inspiration), which means a lot of Black Fives, 0-6-0 goods and similar workhorses.  Most other buyers want something "interesting", which could be a nice livery, a big Pacific, or a one-off.  The U class, being plentiful, a bit less flashy than an N15 or Schools, but with several nice liveries, fall somewhere in between.  I suppose I'd buy one in malachite.

[Ian J.]

The problem is the U is two or three different footplates, and therefore at least two distinctly different models which would share some details. I think that might be what's putting of the manufacturers.

[GreenGiraffe22]

I've been looking out for this thread all year, not sure how I missed it, only just found it by Googling because I noticed the original poll thread said the results would be posted in January 😅

[Dungrange]

Looking through the results in Section 15. Freight Stock: Pre-1923 (excluding Scottish Companies), I note that the generic catch-all entries are the ones that came top (and they're the companies I'm most interested in).  For the Midland Railway, the entry is 'Freight Stock MR (exc company items already made)'.  My question is, what Midland Railway wagons are already available ready-to-run?  I didn't know there were any.

 

Scottish pre-grouping freight stock all appears in Section 6. Locos & Rolling stock: Scottish Companies (inc some Scottish LNER & BR Classes).  Whilst there were 107 votes for Caledonian Railway (CR) rolling stock, 73 votes for both Highland Railway (HR) and North British Railway (NBR) rolling stock and 47 votes for Great North of Scotland Railway (GNSR) rolling stock, there doesn't appear to be any entry for the Glasgow and South Western Railway.    Was there any reason why the poor old G&SWR was overlooked?  I wouldn't cast a vote for the G&SWR as it wouldn't be top of my wish list, but if anyone were to produce a G&SWR open wagon I'd probably buy one.

Edited December 15, 2023 by Dungrange

[BMacdermott]

5 minutes ago, Dungrange said:

Looking through the results in Section 15. Freight Stock: Pre-1923 (excluding Scottish Companies), I note that the generic catch-all entries are the ones that came top (and they're the companies I'm most interested in).  For the Midland Railway, the entry is 'Freight Stock MR (exc company items already made)'.  My question is, what Midland Railway wagons are already available ready-to-run?  I didn't know there were any.

 

Scottish pre-grouping freight stock all appears in Section 6. Locos & Rolling stock: Scottish Companies (inc some Scottish LNER & BR Classes).  Whilst there were 107 votes for Caledonian Railway (CR) rolling stock, 73 votes for both Highland Railway (HR) and North British Railway (NBR) rolling stock and 47 votes for Great North of Scotland Railway (GNSR) rolling stock, there doesn't appear to be anything entry for the Glasgow and South Western Railway.    Was there any reason why the poor old G&SWR was overlooked?  I wouldn't cast a vote for the G&SWR as it wouldn't be top of my wish list, but if anyone were to produce a G&SWR open wagon I'd probably buy one.

 

Hello David

 

We had to list a number of items in such a way and you are right that - as far as I know - none actually are made at the moment. There are other headings where it is difficult to be precise. We have worked closely with a number of clubs and societies to fill a number of gaps that recent announcements have left.

 

There will be at least three MR-specific vehicles along with individual vehicles for numerous other companies for 2024. If you have followed the poll over the years, you will have seen our notes stating that we were steadily expanding individual vehicles.

 

In respect of the GSWR - and bearing in mind our space constraints, there being a potential excess of 30,000 items to list - the company has always been at the low end of low polling, so we took the decision to leave it out. It might go back one day though.

 

Brian (on behalf of The 00 Poll Team)

[Steamport Southport]

1 hour ago, Dungrange said:

Looking through the results in Section 15. Freight Stock: Pre-1923 (excluding Scottish Companies), I note that the generic catch-all entries are the ones that came top (and they're the companies I'm most interested in).  For the Midland Railway, the entry is 'Freight Stock MR (exc company items already made)'.  My question is, what Midland Railway wagons are already available ready-to-run?  I didn't know there were any.

 

Scottish pre-grouping freight stock all appears in Section 6. Locos & Rolling stock: Scottish Companies (inc some Scottish LNER & BR Classes).  Whilst there were 107 votes for Caledonian Railway (CR) rolling stock, 73 votes for both Highland Railway (HR) and North British Railway (NBR) rolling stock and 47 votes for Great North of Scotland Railway (GNSR) rolling stock, there doesn't appear to be anything entry for the Glasgow and South Western Railway.    Was there any reason why the poor old G&SWR was overlooked?  I wouldn't cast a vote for the G&SWR as it wouldn't be top of my wish list, but if anyone were to produce a G&SWR open wagon I'd probably buy one.

 

Bachmann make a MR brake van in both 00 and N.

 

https://www.hattons.co.uk/182282/bachmann_branchline_38_554_20t_midland_brake_van_m623_in_midland_railway_grey/stockdetail

 

They also did a version with duckets which was the first LMS standard design.

 

 

Jason

Edited December 14, 2023 by Steamport Southport

[Compound2632]

11 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said:

Bachmann make a MR brake van in both 00 and N.

 

"Only just"! - 50 in 1919, another 50 ordered in July 1922, and 87 in November 1922, most of which probably weren't completed until 1923. The company had 1,283 brake vans at the end of 1922, a number which had been steadily decreasing from a peak of 1,719 at the end of 1915. So hardly the typical Midland brake van, even for the post-Great War Midland modeller.

[Dungrange]

1 hour ago, Steamport Southport said:

Bachmann make a MR brake van in both 00 and N.

 

Thanks - that would explain the '(exc company items already made)'.  Since I have no interest in a MR Brake van, that would explain why I didn't pay any attention to its existence.

 

1 hour ago, BMacdermott said:

There will be at least three MR-specific vehicles along with individual vehicles for numerous other companies for 2024. If you have followed the poll over the years, you will have seen our notes stating that we were steadily expanding individual vehicles.

 

I think I've voted in every poll since it was on originally run on MREmag and I fully appreciate why you can't list everything.  I'd buy just about any GER freight stock that was announced, but for the other pre-grouping companies, I'd be a bit more selective.  I'd happily buy almost any MR open wagon or covered goods wagon, but I'd be less interested in some of the more specialist MR wagons and I wouldn't buy a MR brake van.  That therefore created the dilemma of whether or not I should vote for that 'category' and in 2022 I chose not to, only voting for GER stock.  However, with more disaggregated categories, I can see me voting for quite a few LNWR, MR and GNR wagons in 2024 that I chose not to vote for in 2022 (since presumably the ones you list are most likely to be the ones I'd be interested in).

 

2 hours ago, BMacdermott said:

In respect of the GSWR - and bearing in mind our space constraints, there being a potential excess of 30,000 items to list - the company has always been at the low end of low polling, so we took the decision to leave it out. It might go back one day though.

 

Okay - I hadn't realised that the G&SWR had previously been listed.  It just seemed strange that it was the only large Scottish company that wasn't listed.