BachelorBoy Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 On 14/10/2023 at 22:29, F-UnitMad said: As per the Title. Define "Serious Modeller". I'm gonna pass...... 🥳🥳🥳🤣🤣🤪🤪😁 I first looked at the figures, the digger, the hardstanding, and the fence, and I was impressed by the realism. And then my eye drifted.... :-) 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted October 19, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 19, 2023 15 hours ago, Dagworth said: I'm not sure. The best bit about the photo is it was taken at a show, and somehow we still won best layout! Andi That says something about contest judges!! 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, J. S. Bach said: That says something about contest judges!! 😉 That they probably aren't serious modellers! 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted October 19, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: That they probably aren't serious modellers! I remember watching some "judges" at a US trolley (tram) model meet; one had a magnifying glass! And was using it!! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Sometimes things start of relatively seriously But then get a little out of hand It didn't end well 4 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted October 19, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) Shouldn't ALL of them be wearing ear protection?? 🙃 Edited October 19, 2023 by J. S. Bach 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, J. S. Bach said: Shouldn't ALL of them be wearing ear protection?? Nah - he's only digging through Styrofoam. 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) Serious modellers build layouts where everything is as it should be. All stock is correct for location and era; anything else is not allowed. All stock is weathered; nothing straight out of the box (unless factory weathered). The track plan is realistic and includes such things as trap points where required. All signals work of course and trains are strictly not allowed past a signal at danger. The land formation is both believable and dramatically portrays the area of the country being modelled. The layout created is a three dimensional work of fine art that includes movement. Non serious modellers build train sets. Edited October 19, 2023 by Chris M 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted October 19, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, Chris M said: Nah - he's only digging through Styrofoam. True, but the jackhammer is extremely loud even when running light. 😉 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted October 19, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, Chris M said: Serious modellers build layouts where everything is as it should be. All stock is correct for location and era; anything else is not allowed. All stock is weathered; nothing straight out of the box (unless factory weathered). ...snip... Not always necessary, this motor that I shot on a Saturday turned out to have left the paintshop the Tuesday before: 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted October 19, 2023 Author Share Posted October 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Chris M said: Serious modellers build layouts where everything is as it should be. All stock is correct for location and era; anything else is not allowed. All stock is weathered; nothing straight out of the box (unless factory weathered). The track plan is realistic and includes such things as trap points where required. All signals work of course and trains are strictly not allowed past a signal at danger. The land formation is both believable and dramatically portrays the area of the country being modelled. The layout created is a three dimensional work of fine art that includes movement. Non serious modellers build train sets. So, as the author of one of my favourite YouTube clips, which are you, Chris..? 3 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 36 minutes ago, F-UnitMad said: So, as the author of one of my favourite YouTube clips, which are you, Chris..? I have different rules for different railways. It has to be said that my garden railway sometimes mixes stock from different continents. So long as the sun is shining it really doesn't matter; that is the essence of a garden railway for me. To illustrate this here is Folly Halt, with very typical US far West buildings with my PPM 50. I am trying to emulate Stourbridge Junction when the students are on their way home. On the other hand I just will not run any loco class that hasn't run through the real Dawlish Warren on my Dawlish Warren layout. I'm very strict about this. Some may find that strange but its a restriction I enjoy having. Despite what I do on my garden railway I really do enjoy the challenging of making a model of a real place and running it as correctly as possible. I strongly believe everyone should do what they want and not be pushed one way or another by others. Its good to be inspired by others but not good to feel pressure to run your railway in a certain way just because others have told you to. I think I would describe myself as a serious modeller but only when I want to be. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) As part of what I call my “serious” modelling I love to find out about odd workings through Dawlish Warren and emulate them. Here are two examples. The GBRf twin 50s took 3 off lease Caledonian sleeper coaches down to Plymouth for evaluation by GWR and the following day took one back. Who would have thought I could run Caledonian sleeper coaches through Dawlish Warren. On 15th September 1963 Bristol sent a Jubilee down to Newton Abbot on a freight working. Again, who would have thought it? The Jubilee is borrowed. It has been used once and will go straight back to its owner. It will never be allowed through Dawlish Warren again because the real event only happened once. It could be argued that “one offs” like these are untypical and so not serious modelling. Alternatively it could be said that such investigations are a mark of a serious modeller. I don’t really care whether it is classed as serious modelling or not - I just enjoy it. Edited October 19, 2023 by Chris M 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 On 16/10/2023 at 16:15, J. S. Bach said: I happen to like scrapple No livermush? Or are you a fellow Philly expat in the South? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted October 19, 2023 Author Share Posted October 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Chris M said: It could be argued that “one offs” like these are untypical and so not serious modelling. Alternatively it could be said that such investigations are a mark of a serious modeller. I don’t really care whether it is classed as serious modelling or not - I just enjoy it. But those "one off" workings took some serious research to find out about! 👍 "Just enjoy it" - absolutely, it's a hobby, and hobbies are supposed to be enjoyed!! 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted October 20, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2023 15 hours ago, Chris M said: Serious modellers build layouts where everything is as it should be. Phew I’m serious Close one but I think I got away with it as in the fiddleyard . . 15 hours ago, Chris M said: Non serious modellers build train sets. Doh! 1 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 28 minutes ago, PaulRhB said: Phew I’m serious Close one but I think I got away with it as in the fiddleyard . . Doh! Very disappointing - James front wheel is off in the bottom photo. 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted October 20, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, Chris M said: Very disappointing - James front wheel is off in the bottom photo. Thomas will have to get the crane then 🤣 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted October 20, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2023 This must qualify…. https://www.noch.com/people-panic-buying/15519/ 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernowtim Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Serious playing trains? 5 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted October 20, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2023 On 19/10/2023 at 04:27, PeterStiles said: Mais, non, mademoiselle Marple; this man was obviously POISONED! Going by the number of times that Miss Marple had to correctly identify the murderer, rather than the first guess by the 'real' detective, nothing surprises. Father Brown, is just the same! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted October 20, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2023 3 hours ago, PaulRhB said: Phew I’m serious Close one but I think I got away with it as in the fiddleyard . . Doh! You won't get away with squashing the cake! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted October 20, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2023 A friend of mine came up with a term for another modeller, ” He takes his happiness seriously “ 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted October 20, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2023 Bulleid’s 4DD unit at Ipswich en route to Snailwell for scrapping. 5 1 2 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted October 20, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2023 I like layouts that are treated seriously, but it's no good if you can't have the occasional laugh IMO. Ones that aren't taken seriously at all, well, not my cup of tea but it's a hobby so as someone else has already said if its builder gets pleasure from it then they've built it exactly as they should've done. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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