RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 23 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23 (edited) Thread started especially for MJI 😜 Opened the box to find this is a 4-GRI rather than a 4-COR. The heavy gauge brass coach bodies will need some “bashing” to get the correct bodyside profile. I plan to make new coach ends and possibly cabs from plasticard. I will replace the MTK bogies with spare Bachmann and Hornby bogies. All back in the box for now… Cheers Darius Edited January 23 by Darius43 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Looking forward to this one. It is a unit I would like to model in 3D one day. It’s a pity that the late Colin Parks thread will not be available it would give you lots of information. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted January 26 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 26 (edited) As soon as i have got my eyes sorted i am going to have to finish my 120 I am wondering if a craft cutter could do the SR EMUs Edited January 26 by MJI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) That's a later MTK kit with the brass bodyshells and etched door reliefs. I'm just finishing off a 4 CEP from that era of MTK kit - previously built and painted but it came to me un-numbered and missing some details. Edited January 26 by andyman7 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 08221 Posted January 26 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26 That W&H models price tab brings back happy memories of nipping over to Marylebone to their shop at lunchtimes to pick up kits and bits and bobs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28 On 26/01/2024 at 21:19, MJI said: As soon as i have got my eyes sorted i am going to have to finish my 120 I am wondering if a craft cutter could do the SR EMUs I've used one to make pre-grouping carriages, so don't see any reason why EMU's couldn't be done with one. Andy G 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Darius43 Posted January 28 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 28 (edited) Made a start this morning. First step was to correct the somewhat haphazard coach body side profile. This was done by clamping the side against the face of a steel rule in a vice - working in stages along the length of the coach. Re-profiled coach body on the left in the photo below. MTK provides brass coach ends that have to be folded to the correct profile. The buffer beam has pre-formed buffer holes, which, being MTK, are too far apart. I snapped off and discarded the brass buffer beams. These will be scratch built in plastic with the correct buffer spacing. The brass ends were soldered to the coach body and filed and sanded flush with the sides. Filler was added to the gaps between the tops and the coach roof. This was my first time soldering brass coach sides/ends. The outside looks much neater than the inside… Cheers Darius Edited January 28 by Darius43 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 28 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28 Etched window frames attached using superglue applied using fine brass wire. Cheers Darius 18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Darius43 Posted January 28 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 28 Roof vents and rainstrips added. Cheers Darius 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exet1095 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Impressive speed, @Darius43. Faster and neater than my work, by a mile. I do really fancy one of these. I have strong memories of getting the train to do our Saturday shopping in Reading when I was very small, and the sudden change to 4-CIGs over Easter 1972. (I still think of those units as ‘Easter Specials’ 52 years on! Paul 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 26/01/2024 at 21:19, MJI said: I am wondering if a craft cutter could do the SR EMUs I've built a Tadpole that way, and have a 4-BUF nearly finished: It's a good way to scratchbuild coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted January 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, pete_mcfarlane said: I've built a Tadpole that way, and have a 4-BUF nearly finished: It's a good way to scratchbuild coaches. My 120 is craft cut, i ought to finish it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 29 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29 (edited) Chassis fabricated from 1mm plasticard sheet and 2.4mm Plastruct angle section. I’m using Bachmann Bulleid bogies in place of the MTK offerings. Cheers Darius Edited January 29 by Darius43 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 29 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29 Chassis trusses made from 1.6mm Plastruct angle section. Bogies fitted. Cheers Darius 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 23/01/2024 at 17:11, Darius43 said: I wonder what era that price tag belongs to? Until fairly recently I'd a Western kit that I acquired from a swapmeet in 1993 which had a W&H price label for £12.50. I often wondered how old that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 29 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29 Coach end details fitted. A mixture of MTK cast parts plasticard bits and brass wire. I also fitted Roxey Mouldings brass grab rails and MJT handles to each door. Cheers Darius 12 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Darius43 Posted January 29 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 29 Primer on. Cheers Darius 17 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Darius43 Posted January 29 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 29 Buffet/Griddle coach body “reprofiled”. Brass ends soldered in place and joints cleaned up. Cheers Darius 20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBL Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I always enjoy your threads Darius, you deserve a special place in folklore for wrestling with all these MTK kits. Or a padded cell. Makes a change from all the whingers who can't even open a box without watching numerous videos 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 30 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30 Whilst placing the Buffet/Griddle coach body next to the Composite coach that I have assembled I noticed that it is 6mm longer (essentially a scale 1.5 feet longer). The composite and driving motor coach bodies are all the same length and scale out close* to the 63’6” length of the prototype coaches. I can find no information on the web that the Buffet/Griddle coach was longer than the other coaches in the unit so this would appear to be another “gift” from Mr MTK. The question is: do I live with this or take a 6mm slice out of the Buffet/Griddle coach body to make it the correct length? * close enough for MTK. Cheers Darius 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 30 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30 Just checked the other MTK 4-COR (actually a 4-BUF) kit that I have and the Buffet coach body is 3mm longer than the others in that one. I have looked a bit more into the logistics of cutting and shutting the brass body of the Buffet/Griddle car and the resultant weakening of the body. Getting two clean and parallel cuts and a decent strength connection of the subsequent “halves” is too great a risk to take. The coach will be longer than the others and only I and anyone else reading this thread will be the wiser… Cheers Darius 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just checked the Golding plans book. Now I know it can sometimes be inaccurate but it does show all the carriages having the one standard length. KEITH 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Fair Oak Junction Posted January 30 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30 Once the unit set is finished and sitting in formation, I doubt you'll even notice the difference. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted January 30 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30 My 116 has a centre car 4mm longer than it should be, not at all noticable 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 30 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30 You make Ernie look pedestrian! Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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