Lacathedrale Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Good afternoon all, I've recently managed to get my locos chipped on my layout and I'm looking forward to inviting some people over to play trains - but having two controllers seems like just about the minimum hospitality I should offer. I am quite keen on the looks of the NCE Cab06, and I think by preference i'd use it as my primary controller - but I can't find them in stock anywhere. In fact, it looks like in some cases it might even be cheaper to buy a full PowerCab system than an Intermediate controller. Any thoughts or advice would be gladly taken. Thanks, William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted February 12 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12 I think the Cab 06 has to act a secondary throttle to a Powercab or Procab. Chris 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardbealach Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 36 minutes ago, Gilbert said: I think the Cab 06 has to act a secondary throttle to a Powercab or Procab. Chris That's correct (Alisdair) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted February 12 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12 I use Powercab and an O6. I really do not like the O6. Limited functions and the Control settings are poor IMO. Compared to the finesse of the Cab, it is awful...sorry. I await all the huge fans...but that won't stop me advising to try another way. Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted February 12 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12 5 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: I use Powercab and an O6. I really do not like the O6. Limited functions and the Control settings are poor IMO. Compared to the finesse of the Cab, it is awful...sorry. I await all the huge fans...but that won't stop me advising to try another way. Phil I agree with you. A second powercab using a 4 wire connector in the righ hand socket is infinitely better. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ELTEL Posted February 12 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12 I also have a 06 and don’t find it particularly user friendly. Very rarely use it. Terry 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danemouth Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I use two Powercabs with one configured as a slave. It automatically picks up the macros from the main Powercab. One thing - if you get a short e.g. running through a point set the wrong way you will need to unplug the slave to allow the master to complete its reboot. Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2E Sub Shed Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I have a Cab 04R and have used it with my (US) shunting plank at exhibitions as it sits more comfortably in the hand. However have had to sacrifice the single push to change direction function which was useful, in favour of the extended Function Keys as need to access them with sound fitted locos. If you have a Powercab.(or PowerPro), then this may be of interest, http://www.wifitrax.com/products/product-WFD-31-detail.html, Connects to add a second or more (up to 8 using home wi-fi) controllers using Andriod or Apple Phones using an Aapp. Both Digitrains and Coastal DCC are listed as UK stockists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 As others have said the 06 isn't much use, I sold mine ages ago. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Conversely I brought one secondhand because I found that when I'm trying to persuade the public to operate, not many like to have Powercab with lots of buttons presented to them. I've since gained a second Powercab when Hatton's had them for £168 last year, but still prefer to run with the Cab06. Once disadvantage I've found is it seems difficult to select speed step 1 and have had to re-tune a lot of Loco's performance to improve slow speed running. I'm not sure whether this is because I have the Potentiometer version, or how it differs to the encoder version in this respect. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted February 14 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14 On 12/02/2024 at 17:09, Gilbert said: I agree with you. A second powercab using a 4 wire connector in the righ hand socket is infinitely better. Blimey, I never knew you could do that; thanks. I picked up an unused NCE Powercab full set at Auction and in total with commission and postage it still only cost me £120. Not sure if it had the upgraded Chip, BUT it works perfectly. I shall use one of my two (yes I know) other Handsets as the second Slave as you suggest! Also, as stated above, the O6 is fine for others to use just for stop and go sort of Op's. In fact at the only Exhibition to which I took a previous EM layout, my Son, on Control at the front of the layout, used it for shunting an 08...for two days of 6 hour shifts! That 08 had a superb West Coast Digital Sound Chip with amazing slow speed control. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted February 14 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14 16 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: Blimey, I never knew you could do that; thanks. I picked up an unused NCE Powercab full set at Auction and in total with commission and postage it still only cost me £120. Not sure if it had the upgraded Chip, BUT it works perfectly. I shall use one of my two (yes I know) other Handsets as the second Slave as you suggest! Also, as stated above, the O6 is fine for others to use just for stop and go sort of Op's. In fact at the only Exhibition to which I took a previous EM layout, my Son, on Control at the front of the layout, used it for shunting an 08...for two days of 6 hour shifts! That 08 had a superb West Coast Digital Sound Chip with amazing slow speed control. Phil It will need a different address but the manual tells you how to sort that. Not all 6 wire cables are falt btw - I have at least one coiled one so beware! and... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacathedrale Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 I don't have sound locos, I don't run macros, I don't need the second cab to program anything, etc. - it's literally just for a second operator to shuffle a pilot loco around the station while mainline operator manages the inbound and outbound trains. I don't like the thumbwheel on the NCE, I'm just suffering through it as the cheapest and most expedient way to get a DCC system up and running. The Cab06e looks much more like how I want my controller to feel (i.e. like a Gaugemaster walkaround, rather than a Sky box remote control). It would appear though, that Cab06's are at least as expensive as a PowerCab, and so mostly pointless. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) Oh dear, I have one of those thinking it would be a good secondary controller (well it does do the job). However, nobody likes it in my group either. The major drawback is the lack of screen I think, so, yes, a slave powercab is going to be better. Sigh. Another thought, our club standardized to NCE eons ago. Most members have their own Powercab kit. John Edited February 14 by brossard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted February 18 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18 On 12/02/2024 at 17:26, Danemouth said: I use two Powercabs with one configured as a slave. It automatically picks up the macros from the main Powercab. One thing - if you get a short e.g. running through a point set the wrong way you will need to unplug the slave to allow the master to complete its reboot. Dave I tried that this morning and it didn't work. Possibly because I couldn't work out how to make the Cab a Slave in the right hand socket of the same Panel! On 14/02/2024 at 15:48, Gilbert said: It will need a different address but the manual tells you how to sort that. Not all 6 wire cables are falt btw - I have at least one coiled one so beware! and... I did this and it works but not with the Coil Cable! Thanks. I shall double check I have the 2 PCP Panels and not a PCP and a PCB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ELTEL Posted February 18 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18 If anyone wants a NCE-06 which works fine complete with box and instruction’ leaflet, make me an offer I no longer have a need for it as the layout I used it for doesn’t need it since the layout was modified. Terry PM me if your interested . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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