RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted February 17, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2013 What a difference a couple of hundred yards makes. The WD was going so slowly that the fireman was able to climb along the footplate and set the bottom lamp straight. Not only that, the smoke under the overall roof was so plentiful and sticky that both lamps got a generous coating of grime. About three minutes work, and what a difference. Only about 50 more to do. What a disgusting mess! I must get a sound chip put in this one, then the illusion will be complete. Next on the sequence was........ Another one, this time with an Up Class F for Ferme Park. Tomorrow Andy Rush is visiting, and I will ask him for chapter and verse on how to make this into a proper train. Using the zoom function is not a good idea when pointing the camera this way. It is hard enough to photoshop signals when they are in focus, but just about impossible when they are fuzzy to start with. Much easier to go back to one of my favourite angles. Nothing got eaten on this one. 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) With only a maximum of f8 to play with, I would avoid using the zoom at all costs Gilbert. Regarding Austerity muck, it was difficult to clean these machines if they had been neglected for a while. Lots of classes got grimy through the environment but the Austerities seemed to generate muck all of their own! Edited February 17, 2013 by coachmann 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted February 17, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2013 Good old workaday pics Gilbert. Improvement to lamps = first class. I really liked WDs for some strange reason. In the 'good old days' I can remember overtaking them (in a train I hasten to add) in almost every loop between London and Donny and being really pi**ed off with mostly not being able to see the numbers because they were just so filthy and I was short sighted anyway. The noise inside that station 'shed' when something like this went through must have been wonderful, especially if the driver closed (loose gear knock) or opened (exhaust + taught connecting rod 'boing') the reg, + all those wagons....... Slightly OT but when I was in Wolsztyn a few years back I asked (in best Polish of course) how they 'bulled up' their loco's. Spray them with diesel fuel is what I was told; good grief.Quack. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 17, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2013 Good old workaday pics Gilbert. Improvement to lamps = first class. I really liked WDs for some strange reason. In the 'good old days' I can remember overtaking them (in a train I hasten to add) in almost every loop between London and Donny and being really pi**ed off with mostly not being able to see the numbers because they were just so filthy and I was short sighted anyway. The noise inside that station 'shed' when something like this went through must have been wonderful, especially if the driver closed (loose gear knock) or opened (exhaust + taught connecting rod 'boing') the reg, + all those wagons....... Slightly OT but when I was in Wolsztyn a few years back I asked (in best Polish of course) how they 'bulled up' their loco's. Spray them with diesel fuel is what I was told; good grief. Quack. So cleaning isn't that much different from BR days then - the norm then was paraffin I believe. I can well remember WDs further north clanking through Riccall on freight trains that seemed to go on forever, very distinct contrast with A4s on the fast fitted freights! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted February 17, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) "So cleaning isn't that much different from BR days then - the norm then was paraffin I believe." Was that the 'oily rag' routine then? Suppose they used the same stuff that went in lamps? (Esso Blue or that pink stuff?) Strangely obtuse really; when those diesel things came in, to clean them they just squirted them with water (with a bit of Daz added). Quack. Edited February 17, 2013 by Mallard60022 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) I cleaned a L&Y 3F A class with lamp oil one night and got a proper ticking off because it was expensive. The loco shone alright but looked 'orrible the next day. Edited February 17, 2013 by coachmann 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 17, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2013 "So cleaning isn't that much different from BR days then - the norm then was paraffin I believe." Was that the 'oily rag' routine then? Suppose they used the same stuff that went in lamps? (Esso Blue or that pink stuff?) Strangely obtuse really; when those diesel things came in, to clean them they just squirted them with water (with a bit of Daz added). Quack. Ideally the cleaning mix had a drop of oil in it so I've been told - but paraffin was a lot cheaper. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxie22 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 loving those weathered lamps Gilbert, gorgeous! (as gorgeous as a mess can be) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted February 17, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2013 Good old workaday pics Gilbert. Improvement to lamps = first class. I really liked WDs for some strange reason. In the 'good old days' I can remember overtaking them (in a train I hasten to add) in almost every loop between London and Donny and being really pi**ed off with mostly not being able to see the numbers because they were just so filthy and I was short sighted anyway. The noise inside that station 'shed' when something like this went through must have been wonderful, especially if the driver closed (loose gear knock) or opened (exhaust + taught connecting rod 'boing') the reg, + all those wagons....... Slightly OT but when I was in Wolsztyn a few years back I asked (in best Polish of course) how they 'bulled up' their loco's. Spray them with diesel fuel is what I was told; good grief. Quack. Given the speed at which WD's usually progressed, and the time they spent waiting the road. you could probably have overtaken them on foot Phil. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted February 18, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2013 Today's very welcome visitor was Andy Rush, who has loaned me some more books on goods stock. My excuses continue to dwindle. He also had his first driving experience on PN,and very successful it was too, except when the idiot signalman set the wrong road , or gave him duff information. He also found time to do what he could with the material available to make my alleged Class F/H goods look a bit more like the real thing, of which more later. By happy coincidence, one of the trains he drove was the 8.26 from March. He was even able to tell me which platform it would have used at March station, and to confirm that it was indeed a B17 turn. To celebrate, here are a couple of shots of the loco at rest. The fireman has already removed the lamp, and while awaiting release to Spital Bridge shed both he and the driver have sneaked off somewhere. Thanks again Andy. I learned a lot more today, four brake vans in one train for a start. This prototypical rectitude can get expensive. 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted February 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 19, 2013 Look at that platform canopy weathering - excellent. Oh and there is a loco - a very 'elegant' machine. Quack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted February 19, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 19, 2013 The rear 3/4 view of the B17 is rather splendid. It's hard to put a scale to it, which is IMHO one of the highest accolades a model can have. even if it's a B17....... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetleys Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 A lovely bit of Loco weathering as usual it's got that nice oily sheen but at the risk of being ex-communicated or worse (directed to a modern traction post!!!!!!!!!!!!@@@@@@@@@@@@@ I think the central 4' and general sleepers in the area where locos stop and stand just needs some gloss black/metalcote brushing in fairly well, I may have talked myself into a job for my next visit which we must schedule, I feel a need to run a certain B1. Dave 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerner Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Gilbert, having just read your piece in Model Rail I was wondering what was around your lococos in the stock shelf photo. It looks like foam. Does it surround the loco or is it fixed inside the square compartment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted February 22, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2013 Gilbert, having just read your piece in Model Rail I was wondering what was around your lococos in the stock shelf photo. It looks like foam. Does it surround the loco or is it fixed inside the square compartment? It's those Peco loco lifts Alan. They are ideal for getting things to and from the stock boxes, but it is an expensive solution. My usual idleness results in my getting more when I can afford to, rather than looking at ways of making something that would do the job more cheaply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerner Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Thanks for that Gilbert. I must admit when I posted you I'd only looked at the pictures. When I got round to reading the article v.late last night I saw you had mentioned the Peco lifts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post great northern Posted February 25, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Where's he been, I hear you ask? Golf, visiting Tetleys, golf lesson, more golf, visit by Peter Leyland. Anyway, back to "normal" now. Peter's visit yesterday resulted in one of those days when a lot was done, but there didn't seem to be much to show for it at the end. Everything had to be done on site, so it wasn't just a matter of adding things that he had already made. Still, we are further forward in one important respect. The passengers on the 8.30 arrival from Grimsby at last have visual confirmation as to where they have arrived. in the form of a proper and permanent running in board. I must weather those supports. And passengers arriving via Station Approach are now left in no doubt too. There really was a notice this large on the roof. You can just about see that there is now also a pavement in front of the buildings, though the nice chaps who promised to tarmac the forecourt didn't show up. Hopefully, we shall get that done next time. Sorry about the "silver lining", it's a pig of a day for photography. I just hope it isn't like this when Chris Nevard arrives on Friday. Just a closer view. This is the view from Station Road. We now have the walls of Station Approach in place, together with the one round the hotel garden. The pavement of Station Road will be to the left of, and on the line of, that straight pencil line. To the right of that will be room for a small amount of garden modelling, and then a low backscene with a representation of the houses which used to be there. And here is that down at heel Immingham B1 resting at the end of its not very taxing journey. There will be a running in board at this end too soon. Edited February 25, 2013 by great northern 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Great pics again, thanks for these. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetleys Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Gilbert, Don't worry about the missing tarmac along the front of the station, it's been sorted. Paston Ridings is not a thousand miles from Peterborough North and I've arranged a team of lads who generally work wherever even on nights I was wondering what copper cable might have to do with tarmacing a station forecourt though? On Moi Choild's life sur' twas not me. The boys from the black stuff down Ancaster way. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted February 25, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2013 Gilbert, Don't worry about the missing tarmac along the front of the station, it's been sorted. Paston Ridings is not a thousand miles from Peterborough North and I've arranged a team of lads who generally work wherever even on nights I was wondering what copper cable might have to do with tarmacing a station forecourt though? On Moi Choild's life sur' twas not me. The boys from the black stuff down Ancaster way. So that's why my signals don't work. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Gets better all the time Gilbert. Those station nameboards look smashing, though I trust they are not inkjet prints like mine otherwise you can say goodbye to them in a few months time. Agreed about that B17, it looks a terrifc model from any angle and is a real credit to Hornby. Question is, will we be able to say that about the DOG? Edited February 25, 2013 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Agreed about that B17, it looks a terrifc model from any angle and is a real credit to Hornby. Question is, will we be able to say that about the DOG? I'll agree with you about the B17 as they're a real pleasure to work on (I've got at least another three to work on in the fullness...), but I do prefer their B1 to it. As for DoG, I'll see if I ever get my grubby mitts on one before deciding if it can be turned into anything that can match their Brit/Clan! It looks like it'll be a lot of work.... Edited February 25, 2013 by Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetleys Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 (edited) Gilbert, Had the endoscope into my stomach and duodenum today and the doctor kept get spurious background images of book cases holding a load of railway books, what's all that about, could he be a Peterborough North fan? Confused of Ancaster. Edited February 27, 2013 by tetleys 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 27, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2013 Gilbert, Had the endoscope into my stomach and duodenum today and the doctor kept get spurious background images of book cases holding a load of railway books, what's all that all about, could he be a Peterborough North fan? Confused of Anacaster. Someone should have gone to Photoshop (hope the other pictures were satisfactory) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetleys Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 When I start doubting whether I should run to bespoke track for my own re-build I just have to check out Gilbert's layout, but then my eyes move on to his signals, and, and, and, Peterborough North really should carry a Government Wealth Warning, keep those pics coming it's one of my targets to aim for. Dave 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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