Popular Post drduncan Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 (edited) By very kind permission of Andy York.... As some of you know, I've been 3d printing stuff to support my 4mm scale modelling projects for a while now, as well as demonstrating 3d printing at a number of shows and open days over the last couple of years. I'm always asked when demonstrating if my prints are for sale... So with a great degree of trepidation I can now say that they are and are being sold under the DR3D Models banner. What is in the range? My 3d prints cover the GWR from the 1860s onwards in 4mm scale (I don't do commissions) - 1, 2, and 3 plank standard gauge wagons, fish wagons, and iron bodied loco coal wagons, while for those of a Brunelian bent there are 3d prints covering broad gauge convertible 3 and 4 plank as well as iron bodied loco coal wagons. Things like this, in fact (4GWR-003 GWR 2 plank wagon to lots 20 & 21, 16’ O/H (15’6” in clear) : So, at the moment, the following are available - some for immediate dispatch, others are on a 'print on demand' basis: 4GWR-001 GWR Bar sided 4 wheel fish wagon to diagram S7 (1892-1926) £30 4GWR-002 GWR 1 plank wagon 15’6 O/H (15’ in clear) no diagram (1866-c1914) £15 4GWR-003 GWR lots 20 & 21; 2 plank wagon 16’ O/H (15’6” in clear) (no side door, low sides: 2 x 9” planks) (1870-cWW1) £15 4GWR-004 GWR 2 plank wagon 16’ O/H (15’6” in clear) (with side doors, high sides: 2 x 11” planks) (1872-cWW1) £15 4GWR-005 GWR 3 plank wagon (round ends, wooden u/f) (1879-cWW1) £15 4GWR-006 GWR 3 plank wagon (round ends, fitched u/f) (1880-cWW1) £15 4GWR-007 GWR 3 plank wagon (round ends, iron u/f) (1880-1920s) £15 4GWR-008 GWR 3 plank wagon (square end, iron u/f) (1884-1920s) £15 4GWR-009 GWR 3 plank wagon (square end, fitched u/f) (1880-cWW1. The dates when round ends were removed is unclear but believed to be after 1900) £15 4GWR-010 GWR Loco coal wagon to diagram N6 (no extension plates) (1880-1930s to 1950 – the dates when the side extensions were added are unknown) £15 4GWR-011 GWR Loco coal wagon to diagram N6 (with extension plates) (1880-1930s to 1950) £15 4GWR-012 BG GWR convertible 3 plank wagon osL345 (1885-1892) £15 4GWR-013 BG GWR convertible 3 plank wagon osL369 (1886-1892) £15 4GWR-014a BG GWR convertible 4 plank wagon osL497 (with door springs both sides) (1889-1892) £15 4GWR-014b BG GWR convertible 4 plank wagon osL497 (with door springs one side only) (1889-1892) £15 4GWR-015 BG GWR convertible iron loco coal wagon osL566 (1890-1892) £15 4GWR-017 GWR lot 130; 2 plank wagon 15’6 O/H (15’ in clear) (with side doors, high sides: 2 x 11” planks) (1874-cWW1) £15 For those who might find it useful, here is a pdf of what is available: DR3D models Price list v2.pdf Got any more pictures? Yes. You've seen 4GWR-003, but here are more. Please remember these are after the prints have been built and primed! 4GWR-004 GWR 2 plank wagon 16’ O/H (15’6” in clear) (with side doors, high sides: 2 x 11” planks) (1872-cWW1) 4GWR-005 GWR 3 plank wagon (round ends, wooden u/f) (1879-cWW1) 4GWR-008 GWR 3 plank wagon (square end, iron u/f) (1884-1920s) and yes, I forgot to fix the label box in place on the solebar before I primed it and took a photo! And for the BG crowd, 4GWR-012 GWR convertible 3 plank wagon osL345 (1885-1892) What's in the boxes? What you get in the box varies but these are not complete kits; they are aids to very simple scratch building. However, the instructions (as well as supplying you with, I hope, a satisfying amount of prototype and historical information) do tell you what else you need and suggest where you can get the bits: think suppliers like MJT, Wizard or ABS Modelstock; or if you have your own preferred supplier of components you can use them! In the boxes you get: 4GWR-001: Body x 1, queen posts x 2, vacuum cylinder x 1, buffer shanks x 4, and outside rigged clasp brake gear 4GWR-002 to 4GWR-004, 4GWR-017: Body x 1, wagon label box x 2, early ribbed buffer guides (no heads) x 4, grease axle box & spring x 4, wooden 2 shoe brake gear and curved lever 4GWR-005 to 4GWR-015: Body x 1, wagon label box x 2, grease axle box & spring x 4, round based taper buffer guides (no heads) x 4 So to illustrate, here is what you get with 4GWR-004 GWR 2 plank wagon 16’ O/H (15’6” in clear) (with side doors, high sides: 2 x 11” planks) (in use between 1872 and cWW1) Can I see the instructions? Yes, as an example, here are the instructions for 4GWR-005 GWR 3 plank with round ends and wooden underframe. 4GWR-005 3 plank round end wood underframe.pdf How can I order these wonderful creations? Ordering is simple: email DR3Dmodels@outloook.com Please allow 28 days from payment of the e-invoice for delivery of the prints. P & P is £5 per order (2nd class parcel post), orders over £60 post free. What are you working on for future releases? Ok, so coaches plus more NPCS and wagons are in development. The current plans (which, let's face it are based on stuff that I want for my own layout) include: 4GWR-016 GWR ex CMR iron bodied china clay wagon (dumb buffers at one end only) - now available to order! 4GWR-018 GWR 3 plank wagon (square end, wooden u/f) 4GWR-019 GWR 1 plank wagon 16’ O/H (15’6” in clear) 4GWR-020 GWR 1 plank wagon 18’ O/H (17’6” in clear) 4GWR-021 GWR 1 plank wagon 18’6 O/H (18’ in clear) 4GWR-022 GWR 1 plank wagon 17’6” O/H (17’ in clear) 4GWR-024 GWR Broad Gauge U20 1st/2nd 6 wheeled composite 4GWR-025 GWR Broad Gauge U21 1st/2nd 6 wheeled composite 4GWR-026 GWR Broad Gauge U28 1st/2nd 6 wheeled clerestory composite 4GWR-027 GWR Standard Gauge U20 1st/2nd 6 wheeled composite 4GWR-028 GWR Standard Gauge U21 1st/2nd 6 wheeled composite 4GWR-028 GWR Standard Gauge U28 1st/2nd 6 wheeled composite 4GWR-029a GWR Standard Gauge 46ft 6in E19/20 brake tricomposite with oil lamps on roof 4GWR-029b GWR Standard Gauge 46ft 6in E19/20 brake tricomposite with flat flame gas lamps on roof 4GWR-029c GWR Standard Gauge 46ft 6in E19/20 brake tricomposite with incandescent gas lamps on roof 4GWR-030 GWR Broad Gauge 46ft 6in E19/20 brake tricomposite with oil lamps on roof 4GWR-031b GWR Standard Gauge 46ft 6in F1 double slip with flat flame gas lamps on roof 4GWR-031c GWR Standard Gauge 46ft 6in F1 double slip with incandescent gas lamps on roof 4GWR-032 GWR Broad Gauge 46ft 6in F1 double slip with oil lamps on roof 4GWR-033 GWR Broad Gauge 40ft L7 parcels or M2 foreign mails van with oil lamps on roof. 4GWR-034 GWR Standard Gauge 40ft L7 parcels or M2 foreign mails van with oil lamps on roof. All of the above are in design and most have had a test print - although some test prints are more successful than others... ....but CAD and 3d printing can be slow, so if you are desperate for one of the above promised 'in development' prints do please be patient! If you've read this far, thank you for your attention and interest. If you are interested in these prints please email me on DR3Dmodels@outlook.com Thanks again, Duncan Edited April 8 by drduncan 17 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Fair Oak Junction Posted February 23 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23 Ooooh, proper early GWR stuff! Excellent!! Best of luck with this, I'll most likely be ordering some of this range in the future. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schooner Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Huzzah and congratulations! The wagons are excellent, kits easily assembled and instructions among, if not, the very best. More power to your elbow, more of your wares to my layout...! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 6 hours ago, Schooner said: Huzzah and congratulations! The wagons are excellent, kits easily assembled and instructions among, if not, the very best. More power to your elbow, more of your wares to my layout...! Louis, Thanks for your kind words as well as your previous support and encouragement. It has been very much appreciated. Duncan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 @Schooner The price list now has in-service dates... D 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 (edited) New print available - 4GWR-016 GWR ex Cornwall Minerals Railway iron bodied China clay tippler wagon. The CMR built over 200 small iron bodied, very short wheelbase, but wooden underframe, China Clay wagons in 1874 using two builders, the Swansea Wagon Company and the West of England Wagon Company. Within a few years the CMR and its China clay fleet had been leased to the GWR. The wagons appear to have been built with dumb buffers at the tooling end and self contained buffers at the non tipping end. Later the wagons were altered to have self contained buffers at both ends - probably in the 1900s - although the wagon stock books are silent on these alterations. As the wagons were built by independent wagon manufacturers not the CMR or GWR, these wagons may also be of interest to those creating proto-freelance independent railway companies of the late Victorian and Edwardian period whose traffic requires an end tippling mineral wagon where a very short wheelbase would be an advantage such as a dock or similar loading/unloading point where there might be very tight radii curves to negotiate. 4GWR-016 is for the early version of the wagon with dumb buffers and self contained buffers. It comprises a one piece body and chassis complete with brake gear as well as axle boxes and springs at the brake lever end of the print. Included with the print are a pair of separate self contained buffer housings and a pair of axle boxes and spring assemblies to facilitate a compensated chassis if desired. Also included in the print is an axle alignment jig for either OO or EM/P4 - please state which is required on ordering. Cost for 4GWR-016 is £15 plus p & p. Prints can be ordered by emailing DR3Dmodels@outlook.com Thanks for your interest. Duncan Edited April 7 by drduncan Better image and additonal info that may be of interest to @Schooner and others 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 I’ll be demonstrating 3D printing at the GW Study Group members day at Didcot civic hall on Saturday 29 June. I’ll be happy to bring along pre-ordered prints for collection for anyone who wishes to avoid postage charges. Duncan 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 (edited) Thanks to the generosity of @Miss Prism there is now a web page for DR3D on the GWR modelling website. See http://www.gwr.org.uk/dr3d-models.html Regards Duncan Edited May 10 by drduncan 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted May 10 Author Share Posted May 10 I'll be helping on the Modelstock ABS stand at EXPOEM tomorrow, Saturday 11 May (unfortunately due to family commitments I can't be there on Sunday). Modelstock will have a selection of prints for sale on BOTH days. If you want to, do say hello on Saturday. Regards, Duncan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1466 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Thanks for the heads up and I wish you a happy , fulfilling and successful day . Regrettably , living near Epsom and with the M25 closure , I can’t attend . However , please pass on my very best to all exhibitors . stand holders, demonstrators and the organisers . I’ll miss my annual trip to Bracknell but I can’t face sitting in a jam all day . I tried to go to Abingdon on a similar occasion and turned back after 2 hours with an eta showing the closing time of the show . Like Arnie “ I’ll be back” next year . EMGS 7368 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted May 26 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26 On 10/05/2024 at 11:10, drduncan said: I'll be helping on the Modelstock ABS stand at EXPOEM tomorrow, Saturday 11 May (unfortunately due to family commitments I can't be there on Sunday). Modelstock will have a selection of prints for sale on BOTH days. If you want to, do say hello on Saturday. Regards, Duncan Duncan, Just came here following the link in your signature. I was at ExpoEM on the Sunday and spoke to Modelstock but did not see/think about 3D prints. I am not sure what is most difficult, keeping myself building structures, or keeping the GWR out of my Cambrian layout. 🙂 Early wagons would be interesting though. Even more interesting is the E19 which can do turn, and turn about with the E25, which I have drawn but not cut out yet. I am fairly certain that by 1895 they would have been using E35/E36 for through coaches, but that is another project. If I ever make up the coaches for the 10:02 from Paddington then it will be needed anyway. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted May 26 Author Share Posted May 26 2 hours ago, ChrisN said: Duncan, Just came here following the link in your signature. I was at ExpoEM on the Sunday and spoke to Modelstock but did not see/think about 3D prints. I am not sure what is most difficult, keeping myself building structures, or keeping the GWR out of my Cambrian layout. 🙂 Early wagons would be interesting though. Even more interesting is the E19 which can do turn, and turn about with the E25, which I have drawn but not cut out yet. I am fairly certain that by 1895 they would have been using E35/E36 for through coaches, but that is another project. If I ever make up the coaches for the 10:02 from Paddington then it will be needed anyway. I’m sorry I wasn’t there to be able to chat with you about the prints. D 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted May 27 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27 On 24/02/2024 at 01:15, drduncan said: 4GWR-027 GWR Standard Gauge U20 1st/2nd 6 wheeled composite 4GWR-028 GWR Standard Gauge U21 1st/2nd 6 wheeled composite 4GWR-028 GWR Standard Gauge U28 1st/2nd 6 wheeled composite Oh, I seem to have accidentally quoted these. Well, since we're on the topic I might as well ask if there is any planned timeline for them? 🙂 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted May 27 Author Share Posted May 27 33 minutes ago, Mikkel said: Oh, I seem to have accidentally quoted these. Well, since we're on the topic I might as well ask if there is any planned timeline for them? 🙂 Hi Mikkel, Thanks for the email. The broad gauge versions are almost ready - I’m having problems getting the springs to print reliably which may cause a further delay if a full redesign is needed. I’ve got a possible solution to the windows problem and I’m awaiting samples for trial fitting. The standard gauge oil lamp versions of the U21 and U28 should be ready for release at the same time as the BG versions, but all the SG U19 and gas lamp versions of the SG of U21 and U28 will need a redesigned end and roofs so will be a bit longer. All of them need instructions/prototype information writing and checking, which is the longest and hardest bit! At the moment the probable release order will be: E19 oil lamp versions BG and SG at the GWSG open and members day. I’m waiting for windows to be proved correct and need to finish the instructions. L7/M2 oil lamp versions as above E19 gas lamp versions hopefully by August Then the Oil lamp versions of the U19/21/28 hopefully by September The the gas lamp versions, probably before Xmas. If I can get any of them out earlier than this I will. Which particular U19/21:28 versions are you after - the BG ones, right? 😜 Duncan 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted May 27 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27 Duncan, Are these going to be private sales or sold through Modelstock, and what sort of price are we looking at. (You may not wish to say until you know exactly what the printing involves, but that is fine.) Also, they may need to be Christmas presents. I am in no rush as I am supposed to be building houses, honest. In the GWR 'Through Coach Workings' it states that if an eight wheel carriage is not available then two six wheelers should be used, or if two eight wheelers then three six wheelers. Although I will need a six wheel brake it just so happens that the composites I had thought about to replace a tri-composite bogie were U21 and U28. Just saying. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted May 27 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27 Many thanks Duncan. Your list is like a sweet shop! 3 hours ago, drduncan said: Which particular U19/21:28 versions are you after - the BG ones, right? 😜 He he, very tempting but I had better stick to SG. I suppose the gas lamp versions are most appropriate for my period, but wouldn't mind a bit of conversion work. The E19 will be a good fit with my old Mallard D15, I think (5000 kms from my books right now). 4 hours ago, drduncan said: All of them need instructions/prototype information writing and checking, which is the longest and hardest bit! Both are certainly nice to have, but I wonder if there is a way to make this easier for you. E..G., Would a generic instruction sheet be possible? And does your target group need much prototype info? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted May 27 Author Share Posted May 27 3 hours ago, ChrisN said: Duncan, Are these going to be private sales or sold through Modelstock, and what sort of price are we looking at. (You may not wish to say until you know exactly what the printing involves, but that is fine.) Also, they may need to be Christmas presents. I am in no rush as I am supposed to be building houses, honest. In the GWR 'Through Coach Workings' it states that if an eight wheel carriage is not available then two six wheelers should be used, or if two eight wheelers then three six wheelers. Although I will need a six wheel brake it just so happens that the composites I had thought about to replace a tri-composite bogie were U21 and U28. Just saying. Hi Chris, The oil lamps are probably the best option for your period as gas lamp by and large came in (as conversions rather than built from new) in the 1900s although I’ll be putting the earliest and latest in service dates in the prototype info and on the product listings when the prints are ready. As to price the 6w U/19/21/28s will probably be in the £30-40 range. You’ll get a one piece body, separate roof, under frame and brake fittings as well as a jig to cut the footboards from brass L section and assemble them on supports, and laser cut windows. You’ll need to source w-irons, axles boxes (maybe no promises at the moment), vac pipes, coupling hooks, door and grab handles and some 0.3mm brass or similar wire as well as 3x1mm L section brass for footsteps. The E19 and F1 expect £50-60. You’ll get a one piece body, separate roof, under frame and brake fittings, bogies, footstep cutting and assembly jig. You’ll need to find vac pipes, coupling hooks, door and grab handles and some 0.3mm brass or similar wire as well as 3x1mm L section brass for footsteps. L7/M2 price probably £40-50 but what you get (and what you’ll need to source for yourself) will be as for the E19 or F1. Youll be able to order these (and any of my prints) directly from me by emailing DR3Dmodels@outlook.com or via the Modelstock website when it is up and running. Regards, Duncan 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted May 27 Author Share Posted May 27 1 hour ago, Mikkel said: Both are certainly nice to have, but I wonder if there is a way to make this easier for you. E..G., Would a generic instruction sheet be possible? And does your target group need much prototype info? I think so, certainly given the discussion on various wagon threads. And I want to make finescale easy and that means giving as accurate prototype info as possible. Let’s face it getting to York to consult stock registers is not everyone’s idea of fun! This will mean that we all can then choose whether we want to be as accurate as we can be, or be happy (and this is perfectly acceptable in my book as long as they buy my prints) with a generic number for that prototype but it might not have been in the configuration modelled for a particular year. D 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted May 27 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27 3 hours ago, drduncan said: Hi Chris, The oil lamps are probably the best option for your period as gas lamp by and large came in (as conversions rather than built from new) in the 1900s although I’ll be putting the earliest and latest in service dates in the prototype info and on the product listings when the prints are ready. As to price the 6w U/19/21/28s will probably be in the £30-40 range. You’ll get a one piece body, separate roof, under frame and brake fittings as well as a jig to cut the footboards from brass L section and assemble them on supports, and laser cut windows. You’ll need to source w-irons, axles boxes (maybe no promises at the moment), vac pipes, coupling hooks, door and grab handles and some 0.3mm brass or similar wire as well as 3x1mm L section brass for footsteps. The E19 and F1 expect £50-60. You’ll get a one piece body, separate roof, under frame and brake fittings, bogies, footstep cutting and assembly jig. You’ll need to find vac pipes, coupling hooks, door and grab handles and some 0.3mm brass or similar wire as well as 3x1mm L section brass for footsteps. L7/M2 price probably £40-50 but what you get (and what you’ll need to source for yourself) will be as for the E19 or F1. Youll be able to order these (and any of my prints) directly from me by emailing DR3Dmodels@outlook.com or via the Modelstock website when it is up and running. Regards, Duncan Duncan, Sounds reasonable to me. Will the bogies be 6ft or 8ft? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted May 27 Author Share Posted May 27 1 hour ago, ChrisN said: Duncan, Sounds reasonable to me. Will the bogies be 6ft or 8ft? They are Dean 6’4” ones. D 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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