shortliner Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 For Patrick, who asked about Street Running - (allbeit in 2mm!) and Pete (Trisonic) who asked about unusual track layouts (allbeit US ones!), and the rest of you of course, something a little different - I await the first model with interest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 :blink: Did I see things right at 2:30 onwards...?!?!? :huh: Never seen ANYTHING like that before..!!! Nor have I seen a Steam Loco Driver wearing white gloves, either... I wonder how long they last like that..?!?! :D Jack I don't know how you come across this stuff....!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Bizarre indeed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 What a way to run a railway! That turntable (turnpad?) was odd enough but all that pushing of the stock and then the pantograph at the end! What was that all about? Incidentally, what country was it? Thanks steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Thumper Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 i think Tomix??? or some other japanese model company are making that engine with two carriages in N gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I was a bit suspicious of the lack of leaking steam and other features of a kettle, not to mention the rapid reversal and acceleration, then I took a closer look at the views of the cab, then I did a little search and found this site. Apparently, its a diesel, but that still doesn't explain the trolley bus style electrical pickup. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Jack, I'm lost for words......what everyone else said plus "everyone at the double"! I couldn't figure out how one man was able to control the coach with one hand - presumably the pantograph was up then?? Now, I've officially seen everything - until your next posting, of course.........wonderful stuff, Jack! Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine coast Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Well I was going to say ,very similar to what I shall be playing with at the weekend on the Great Bush railway at Tinkers Park....Sao Domingos (0-6-0 O&K) + ex Hayling island 4 wheel coaches....until that turntable thingy appeared !!!! ..must try and talk the trustees into getting one of them ....! and Pete you can push rolling stock that small around fairly easily on the flat .....it is when there is any kind of gradient it becomes a problem.. some photos here....flickr link Regards Trevor.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foulounoux Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 I was a bit suspicious of the lack of leaking steam and other features of a kettle, not to mention the rapid reversal and acceleration, then I took a closer look at the views of the cab, then I did a little search and found this site. Apparently, its a diesel, but that still doesn't explain the trolley bus style electrical pickup. Nick if you read the description - in english below the japanese it does sort of explain - last two lines * Katsuyama-machi crossing. * What is attached to the roof of this train is not a bow collector (pantograph), but equipment to operate the points and control the course. - that makes it a full scale DCC then !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 I was a bit suspicious of the lack of leaking steam and other features of a kettle, not to mention the rapid reversal and acceleration, then I took a closer look at the views of the cab, then I did a little search and found this site. Apparently, its a diesel, but that still doesn't explain the trolley bus style electrical pickup. Look at the shape of the boiler too! The bow collector could at the end could be to allow a diesel electric to run off the worse to reduce emissions - the connectors on the outer ends of the buffer beams look electrical to me. Have I missed the 'trolley bus style' pick ups? I couldn't figure out how one man was able to control the coach with one hand - presumably the pantograph was up then?? and Pete you can push rolling stock that small around fairly easily on the flat Pushing stock isn't too hard - I've had to push a couple of scrap wagons at Scunhtorpe Steelworks to clear them from a couple of derailed wagons! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 What is attached to the roof of this train is not a bow collector (pantograph), but equipment to operate the points and control the course. I think it is a bow collector, just not used as such - it will probably be a standard bit of kit to work with the overhead. Do the other trams use the overhead for points control? Tram and trolleybus systems in the UK used similar systems for 'point' control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 I think it is a bow collector, just not used as such - it will probably be a standard bit of kit to work with the overhead. Do the other trams use the overhead for points control? Tram and trolleybus systems in the UK used similar systems for 'point' control. Yes it is. I checked it out too. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Pushing stock isn't too hard - I've had to push a couple of scrap wagons at Scunhtorpe Steelworks to clear them from a couple of derailed wagons! I agree but he was hardly pushing it, more controlling it...... Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neil Posted July 27, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 27, 2010 i think Tomix??? or some other japanese model company are making that engine with two carriages in N gauge. I believe it's actually Kato, it looks as though Wellington Models are going to import some. it's worth noting that the loco isn't powered, the go comes from one of the coaches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 I believe it's actually Kato, it looks as though Wellington Models are going to import some. it's worth noting that the loco isn't powered, the go comes from one of the coaches. Shame it looks nothing like the real thing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 I agree but he was hardly pushing it, more controlling it...... If there's a slight grade he may just be letting the brakes off and the reapplying them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 If there's a slight grade he may just be letting the brakes off and the reapplying them. Both ways? I found another clip of this line and this time they really were having to push them (in the rain, if you can find it). There's probably a simple answer, somewhere! Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine coast Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Ok, been looking again at a few of the other clips on youtube and the "turntable" is air operated and drops from the loco onto the track ,the reason for turning in the middle of the point work is just for clearances whilst turning ...moving the coaches looks like it is done with something similar to a "caravan mover" electric motor with tyre bearing on the coach wheel,there is a switch that the guard/driver uses just above the axle box ... I think !!!! could and probably am wrong ... but whatever ,it is very clever .....! Regards Trevor .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Klyzlr Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 RMWeb Team, Guys n Girls, recall that the Pacific Electric line in Cal had Alco S-series diesel switchers that were equipped with trolley-poles! Why? Because the PE's grade crossing lights were triggered from the overhead, and even diesel-powered locos needed to "trip the circuit"... http://www.flickr.com/photos/metrolibraryarchive/3527106337/in/photostream/ Perhaps this is the same reason why the "historical" car consist has the pantograph??? Happy Modelling, Aim to Improve, Prof Klyzlr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 RMWeb Team, Guys n Girls, recall that the Pacific Electric line in Cal had Alco S-series diesel switchers that were equipped with trolley-poles! Why? Because the PE's grade crossing lights were triggered from the overhead, and even diesel-powered locos needed to "trip the circuit"... Perhaps this is the same reason why the "historical" car consist has the pantograph??? Happy Modelling, Aim to Improve, Prof Klyzlr Agree, good Prof., often we can be so oblique on here that the realization is not obvious in our writings...... What are you working on right now? Want to start a thread? Seriously, would like to see more of your work. Btw that Kato model bears little resemblance to the train as a whole - oops! In good humour. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Devil Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 It gets even more interesting, don't know if anyone else has seen these, but it looks like the same system has a 90 degree flat crossing of light/heavy rail, that with diesel powered 'steam' locos......! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opuxjU5fNC0&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_fFsSO1C7k&feature=related Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 I read an article on the system, and yes it is a diesel unit, with steam effects, and the coaches are fitted with motors to move them, battery powered, charged by the diesel. The overhead is for track position, signals etc, and a phone connection, although they are radio fitted as well. Very interesting prototype, the turntable is not unique, in the past, but these days is highly unusual to find in use. Stephen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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