marc smith Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 IPA does work really well on the pickups, I use it on mine (3 x MK1 versions), I've also tweeked the pick ups to give more outward pressure on the backs of the treads. Make sure the backs of the wheel tyres are clean too where the pick ups touch. Any stubborn muck on the pick ups I use a tooth pick to scrape it off. I think the back to back being tight is exactly the right answer to the problem. If you can beg steal or borrow a GW models wheel puller, you may be able to adjust them without touching the quartering. brgds Thanks Paul, I may try adding some extra pickups to the older Bachmann 08... As for the newer version - Don't think I've ever seen a "Wheel Puller" though! Best Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochnagar Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Hornby one wins everytime, superior in every respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Certainly my earliest versions have no DCC socket. Without dismantling every example I have (no mean feat) I wouldn't know which do and which don't, because none of the boxes give any clue. The DCC socket fitted version is the updated model. You can tell from the modified pickup arrangement. The original non-socket fitted Bachmann models (replaced some 4 or 5 years ago) had the plunger pickups, that some have rightly complained about in this thread. If unsure about the socket, just turn it upside down and check which sort of pickups it's got. I can't say for sure about every one they've released, but I think the revised models have "DCC Ready" written on the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 The original non-socket fitted Bachmann models (replaced some 4 or 5 years ago) had the plunger pickups, that some have rightly complained about in this thread. Are you sure? I have one from the original batch which had wiper pick ups - I say 'had' as I replaced them at the same time I rewheeled it - see below. Have a Bachmann version and if you want details that look chunky go for it. Some people I know like the shape of the Bachmann model, and with a bit of care ('modelling') with new handrails Still needs attention round the steps front and back, but the details don't look to 'chunky' to me. And it runs very nicely too With some of the Hornby pipework I think it is too prominent and maybe better absent. That under the running boards should mostly sit behind the valance. Normally you don't see it and painted in bright colours makes it stand out too much I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Hornby one wins everytime, superior in every respect. Except when running over imperfect track (i.e. mine) in my and at least a few other people's experiences. Then the Bachmann's sprung centre axle (compared with Hornby's rigid one) comes into its own I find. Cheers, Dave Waverley West Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigwelsh Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Except when running over imperfect track (i.e. mine) in my and at least a few other people's experiences. Then the Bachmann's sprung centre axle (compared with Hornby's rigid one) comes into its own I find. Cheers, Dave Waverley West The Hornby one has proper bearings in hornblocks that are easy enough to spring. I've done it on mine and with properly jointed Brassmasters rods its now running really well though it'll get a proper test once we've finished rewiring the circuit at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1030western musketeer Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I have recently got the Bachmann weathered 08173 and looks good and runs well.However with this days tech i was put back a bit as was expecting working head and tail lights to be fitted.Anyone attempted or fitted these details most welcome. richard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tref67 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Would anyone care to comment on which is easiest to fit Kadees to? Thanks, Tref. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 The Hornby one is a doddle as it is NEM socket equipped and I'm pretty certain that's the case with the Bachmann one so equally as easy if so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I have recently got the Bachmann weathered 08173 and looks good and runs well.However with this days tech i was put back a bit as was expecting working head and tail lights to be fitted.Anyone attempted or fitted these details most welcome. richard. Hi Richard, I've got a Hornby one, with express models lights fitted. There aint a lot of room in there! It requires a circuit board to be fitted, above the motor. In fact, the body doesn't sit quite as well once the board is in place. I think it's now very difficult to get hold of the express models kit? I know what you mean - we see lighting in so many of our off-the-shelf models, we've come to expect it as standard. Good luck with fitting lighting - let us know how you get on Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1030western musketeer Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Marc thanks for your reply but fitting lights to the 08 will be well down my list at the moment as just sold my n gauge to make way for my 00 gauge project but i thought i would ask the question. regards. richard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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