Tim Chambers Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 I recently acquired a Hornby J52 at a bargain price, a cracking little runner and well detailed bodywork.One of my favourite playpen activities is the detailing or modest conversion of RTR locos and in a rash moment wondered if there was any potential in using this loco as a basis for representing the sole class S saddle tank? This was converted from a SEC C class tender loco in 1917 by Maunsell for shunting duties and I believe spent most of its life at Bricklayers Arms before withdrawal in 1951.Problem is cannot find any pictures or plans!I have trawled through my "Southern"books and Googled well with no success.I wonder if any kind soul could suggest any source of more details? Many thanks.Tim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PhilH Posted October 8, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2010 There are a couple of photos plus plans on pp61 and 62 of 'A Pictorial Record of Southern Locomotives' by J.H. Russell, published by OPC, ISBN 0 86093 443 8. I'm pretty sure this book can be obtained through the library system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Chambers Posted October 8, 2010 Author Share Posted October 8, 2010 There are a couple of photos plus plans on pp61 and 62 of 'A Pictorial Record of Southern Locomotives' by J.H. Russell, published by OPC, ISBN 0 86093 443 8. I'm pretty sure this book can be obtained through the library system. Thanks Phil, I feel a visit to the library coming on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Hi Tim, there is a very nice 3/4 view of the righthand side in the Bradford Barton book - Southern Steam Locomotive Survey - the Wainwright ClassesISBN 0-85153-344-2 page 17, which could be particularly useful. send me a PM if you cannot get hold of a copy - the book is no doubt long out of print. regards Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Chambers Posted October 8, 2010 Author Share Posted October 8, 2010 Hi Tim, there is a very nice 3/4 view of the righthand side in the Bradford Barton book - Southern Steam Locomotive Survey - the Wainwright ClassesISBN 0-85153-344-2 page 17, which could be particularly useful. send me a PM if you cannot get hold of a copy - the book is no doubt long out of print. regards Mike Many thanks Mike, I'll trawl my usual sources first but may well take you up on your kind offer!Tim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Just to get you started, there are a couple of photos of models to be found at http://www.crphillips-models.co.uk/srmodelspage6.html and http://www.sefinecast.co.uk/Locomotives/New%20and%20Revised%20Loco%20Kits%20Page%205.htm as SE Finecast make a kit. I also found this reference http://www.kettlesgalore.fotopic.net/c1789730.html but I am at work and the thought police won't let me check fotopic. My initial thoughts are that the S has a "proper" round saddle tank whereas the J52 has straight sides, which may make things difficult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Chambers Posted October 9, 2010 Author Share Posted October 9, 2010 Just to get you started, there are a couple of photos of models to be found at http://www.crphillips-models.co.uk/srmodelspage6.html and http://www.sefinecast.co.uk/Locomotives/New%20and%20Revised%20Loco%20Kits%20Page%205.htm as SE Finecast make a kit. I also found this reference http://www.kettlesgalore.fotopic.net/c1789730.html but I am at work and the thought police won't let me check fotopic. My initial thoughts are that the S has a "proper" round saddle tank whereas the J52 has straight sides, which may make things difficult. Thanks Nick, PM on its way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Hi Tim, having looked at the photos, I think that Nick's initial thoughts are wrong, the tanks do have flat sides, but possibly not as flat as the J52. regards Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Wasn't the old Tri-ang saddle tank based on the S class but over height to accomodate a clockwork mechanism, always toyed with cutting one down to correct height. http://www.tri-ang.co.uk/OO/saddle.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted October 10, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2010 Like this? going soon! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRI-ANG-00-R153-0-6-0-SADDLE-TANK-No-2300-BLACK-1957-/250704597531?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item3a5f28921b Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Chambers Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 Wasn't the old Tri-ang saddle tank based on the S class but over height to accomodate a clockwork mechanism, always toyed with cutting one down to correct height. http://www.tri-ang.co.uk/OO/saddle.html D'you know, I reckon youm absolutely spot on. Looking at the photos that Mike has kindly PMd to me, the Triang loco is a very fair representation.Looking at the J52, a new cab and replacement(lower) boiler fittings, that won't be far off either.Good init! Best wishes, Tim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Tim, A converted Wainwright 'C' class 0-6-0 tender engine - hasn't some one like '00 Works' brought out a rtr version of the C, so try the manufacturers to see if they would supply a loco minus tender, and fabricate saddle tanks, and bunker, or get some one like Kevin Trim to do it for you. Paul ps Good to see you at Blandford on Saturday, sorry I didn't have time for a longer chat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Chambers Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 Tim, A converted Wainwright 'C' class 0-6-0 tender engine - hasn't some one like '00 Works' brought out a rtr version of the C, so try the manufacturers to see if they would supply a loco minus tender, and fabricate saddle tanks, and bunker, or get some one like Kevin Trim to do it for you. Paul ps Good to see you at Blandford on Saturday, sorry I didn't have time for a longer chat. Cheers mate, worth bearing in mind.Blandford exhibition was first class! Looking forward to the next one-some excellent layouts- "Blandford" of course,and the ever superb "Flintcombe". Have to say though, the gent with his matchstick built ship models- wow! an absolute mind-blower! Thanks to all the team and best wishes, Tim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted October 11, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2010 Hi Tim This looks like an intersting and feasible project. I think that most of the photographic references in the more mainstream SR related publications have been mentioned. I look forward to seeing the progress you make with the conversion, and how you go about it, please keep us posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Chambers Posted October 12, 2010 Author Share Posted October 12, 2010 Hi Tim This looks like an intersting and feasible project. I think that most of the photographic references in the more mainstream SR related publications have been mentioned. I look forward to seeing the progress you make with the conversion, and how you go about it, please keep us posted. Thanks Graham.I must finish repainting and re roofing a pair of Triang clerestories, re number a detailed Hornby E2,start a "makeover" of the left hand end of my wee layout and then.....J52 beckons! (by which time I hope I have discovered how to load photos onto RMweb)Best wishes, Tim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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