Ron Heggs Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 Collected the LEDs from the Correos this morning Cut the light fittings from tablet bubble packs, and fitted the connecting drop pieces. Painted the first five light fittings - External Black Internal White Painted the first lighting cable support for the South end of Platform 6 - the right most end will be fixed to the gable end structure - left hand end will be connect to the next cable support assembly Close-up Nano LED fitted to the light fitting with the wires fed through a 0.5mm dia hole Light fitting fixed to the cable support - Lighting wires attached catenary style to the cable support - ... and the light checked with a couple of semi-depleted AA batteries Another four support assemblies to be constructed for Platform 6, before fitting to the Train Shed 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted September 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2015 Those light fittings are the cherries on the top of the cake that is the train shed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) Those light fittings are the cherries on the top of the cake that is the train shed! Thanks - really they are only some of the cherries in the cake, or will be when they are actually fitted and working Ron Edited September 12, 2015 by Ron Heggs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 The second lighting assembly has been completed, the three remaining assemblies for Platform 6 are painted, and await the fixing of the light units and wiring The two completed assemblies have been joined together temporarily - and the wires shortened to enable soldering when fitted in position in the train shed - The brass tube joining piece can be seen in the centre, and the shortened wires with their coating removed, overlap - will be trimmed after soldering The three remaining assemblies will be completed today, and fixing in the train shed should commence tomorrow 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 All five lighting assemblies for platform 6 are now complete North to South, the assemblies are - 147mm + Light unit + 225mm / 225mm + Light unit + 225mm / 225mm + Light unit + 225mm / 225mm + Light unit + 225mm / 197mm + Light unit + 25mm The North end will be attached to the carrier cable running over the station concourse, and the South end will fix to the Gable Transom structure Now for the fiddly bit - fixing each assembly to the roof, and to each other 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 The lighting assemblies are now fixed in the train shed - The horizontal supports need some delicate bending attention, and the power wiring needs joints to be soldered and the catenaries re-instated Platform 6 surfacing and edging will be the next task before the lighting assemblies for Platforms 4/5 are constructed, and the lighting power supply wiring is hidden within the gable ends Access will be gradually reduced within the train shed, so have to ensure that details above platform level are added progressively whilst access is still possible 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJChurchward Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Ron, Am I correct in understanding that the power supply to those LEDs is through the thin wires hung from the horizontals? Damn it, this is astonishingly fine work, especially for one small corner of a project on such a majestic scale. Andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 Ron, Am I correct in understanding that the power supply to those LEDs is through the thin wires hung from the horizontals? Damn it, this is astonishingly fine work, especially for one small corner of a project on such a majestic scale. Andy Hi, Andy You are correct. The power supply to the LEDs runs through the thin (0.1mm coated) wire hung from the horizontal brass wire. The brass wire is not used as any part of the electrical circuit. Visually this mimics the prototype This single wire between the LEDs - the LEDs are wired in series - removes the complexity and visual impact of running multiple wires to the five LEDs. The wiring from the 18 volt DC supply is fed from either end of the train shed via the gable transoms, and via the hollow span beam columns from below the baseboards Cheers Ron 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 Have been 'off scene' for a few weeks 'entertaining' a few family visitors staying with us. They have all now returned to the UK, and this allows me to continue with my modelling A friend has sent me a picture of the train shed showing part of the lighting system over platforms 3 and 4/5 - The catenary support cable is not as taut as I assumed, and dips a bit between the light unit supports Nice view of the light unit maintenance from a very tall wooden trestle. By today's H&S completely forbidden A good spread of litter on the tracks. Tracks look as though they had not received any maintenance for a few decades 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJChurchward Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Have been 'off scene' for a few weeks 'entertaining' a few family visitors staying with us. They have all now returned to the UK, and this allows me to continue with my modelling A friend has sent me a picture of the train shed showing part of the lighting system over platforms 3 and 4/5 - 64-157-35.397.jpg The catenary support cable is not as taut as I assumed, and dips a bit between the light unit supports Nice view of the light unit maintenance from a very tall wooden trestle. By today's H&S completely forbidden A good spread of litter on the tracks. Tracks look as though they had not received any maintenance for a few decades Ron, Do you not think that in the photograph, the power cables are visually much more prominent than the support wire? Andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJChurchward Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Ron, Do you not think that in the photograph, the power cables are visually much more prominent than the support wire? Andy That wasn't intended to sound critical, by the way, just an observation. The support is likely to be steel wire under tension, which is probably a lot thinner than copper cable(s) with insulated casings. A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 That wasn't intended to sound critical, by the way, just an observation. The support is likely to be steel wire under tension, which is probably a lot thinner than copper cable(s) with insulated casings. A Thanks Andy. I had noticed the same thing I had been working from an overhead shot of the platforms where the difference between the support and power cables is not as apparent Will have to experiment with some thickening agent mixed with black paint brushed on to the power wire, to see if the visual difference can be reduced Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrg1 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Hi, Andy You are correct. The power supply to the LEDs runs through the thin (0.1mm coated) wire hung from the horizontal brass wire. The brass wire is not used as any part of the electrical circuit. Visually this mimics the prototype This single wire between the LEDs - the LEDs are wired in series - removes the complexity and visual impact of running multiple wires to the five LEDs. The wiring from the 18 volt DC supply is fed from either end of the train shed via the gable transoms, and via the hollow span beam columns from below the baseboards Cheers Fascinating as usual-keep up the good work! Can you possibly post an electrical diagram of the lighting arrangement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 Fascinating as usual-keep up the good work! Can you possibly post an electrical diagram of the lighting arrangement? A quick diagram - Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrg1 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Many Thanks-it makes it easier to follow what you are doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 Copies of the CAD drawings for the WH Smith Bookstall and the Concourse Restaurant - The WH Smith Bookstall - the top elevation is of the rear face and two sides - middle elevation is the upper front face - the lower elevation is of the built-out front and two narrow sides The Restaurant was really a Buffet - again the upper elevation is the rear face and two sides - the middle elevations are the front face and buffet entrance - the lower elevations, etc. are the glazed raised roof (this will also be used for the WH Smith Bookstall, where it is hidden by the upper hoarding boards) As usual, construction will be in styrene The builds will be evening projects whilst the lighting system is the daytime job 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 Built the rear wall of WH Smith Bookstall tonight - .. side walls next Train Shed Lighting System - All the brass wire Catenary and Light Unit supports have been soldered into individual assemblies, and need the catenary/power supply wire fixings adding prior to the LEDs and wires being fixed 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixoh8sixoh Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Ron, these may be things you've already seen or are of no use to you, but I came across them in The Wharf pub last night. This is my first visit to Manchester but I felt I knew that bit of the city purely from your modelling - so thank you! I'm going back in daylight today and looking forward to seeing the detail I missed last night. Apologies for the light reflection - lighting conditions were poor and they had picture lights shining on them. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Ron, these may be things you've already seen or are of no use to you, but I came across them in The Wharf pub last night. This is my first visit to Manchester but I felt I knew that bit of the city purely from your modelling - so thank you! I'm going back in daylight today and looking forward to seeing the detail I missed last night. Apologies for the light reflection - lighting conditions were poor and they had picture lights shining on them. Thanks. This is the one plan that I couldn't find in the Manchester Archives, which holds plans of all the railway warehouses in the Greater Manchester Area This particular plan is from page 201 of the plan album, of which only this portion is available in the on-line archive - https://www.flickr.com/photos/manchesterarchiveplus/9071786756/in/photostream/lightbox/ Page 202 shows the warehouses around Castlefield - https://www.flickr.com/photos/manchesterarchiveplus/9071780850/in/photostream/lightbox/ I would be grateful if you could get better pictures of this plan in The Wharf Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixoh8sixoh Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I've taken some close-ups (sectional as otherwise there's too much reflection). I did ask if I could take it off the wall to photograph it in daylight outside but they didn't have the key to remove it from the wall! Can you pm me your email address and I'll send the files once I'm back home? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 I've taken some close-ups (sectional as otherwise there's too much reflection). I did ask if I could take it off the wall to photograph it in daylight outside but they didn't have the key to remove it from the wall! Can you pm me your email address and I'll send the files once I'm back home? Thanks Mike Now have 21 close-up pictures of this historic plan and a further 11 pictures of the viaducts close by The Wharf pub Have to view each picture looking for any extra details which will aid me in achieving a more accurate model Cheers Ron 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Mike Found some information on one of the pictures, which has been eluding me in searches, i.e. no plans or pictures found in archives, etc. The garage area sandwiched between Great Bridgewater Street and Trafford Street is shown in plan with notes as to its basic structure, and a handwritten note as to its previous occupier i.e. Thornycroft, of diesel engine and vehicle fame. Further searching online with this snippet of info. has elicited a photo of a Thornycroft truck standing outside the garage with a part view of the garage frontage on Great Bridgewater Street This information will allow the production of a reasonably accurate model of this building Thanks Mike Ron 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Heggs Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 Been having problems with file transfers from the camera to laptop - finally nailed it down to the USB cable. But it has meant that a few pictures never made it from the camera uncorrupted Carried on modelling the news-stand, and left it in an unpainted state whilst sorting the 'camera' problem Now all is ok again, here are the pictures of the finished news-stand ready for painting and application of the 'news media', etc. - Rear face and side looking as from Platform 6 Front face and left side looking from Concourse Front face and right side looking from Concourse Rear face and side looking as from Platform 5 The roof assembly is a separate part to enable the fitment of the counter, window glazing, etc. after painting .. the Concourse Restaurant/Buffet block is next, whilst the lighting system continues 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRail Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Ron as ever fantastic work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 All your excellent modelling of this station brings back childhood memories for me when my father used to take me on days out to Manchester on the train when we lived "up North". Thank you Ron. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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