Mark 37 Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 Thanks Bry, I found this on my travels through the web and thought this would be a good model, link if I could work out how to make the plough. Although not listed above a couple of Flangeways are on the list of must haves. Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Hi Mark37 For Railfreight Red Stripe Class 37s with Eastfield Terrier logos there were 37118 split headcode, 37160 centre headcode and 37359 split headcode. Now im not sure whether 37118 was renumbered into 37359 or whether they were different locos i dont have my Platform 5 books to hand. Bry 37118 and 359 are the same loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted May 11, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2011 Now I am not sure whether 37118 was renumbered into 37359 or whether they were different locos I don't have my Platform 5 books to hand. I can confirm that 37118 and 37359 are indeed one and the same. Was still 37359 in 1991 according to the appropriate Platform 5 Combined Volume. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Up side down salmon, how did they manage that I remember a Class 81 loco that had the salmon upside down (Salmon was used for Motherwell on diesel locos and Shields on electric locos) It turned out that the person applying the logo wasn't aware that it was a leaping salmon, not a diving salmon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edin_bry2x Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Thanks Bry, I found this on my travels through the web and thought this would be a good model, link if I could work out how to make the plough. Although not listed above a couple of Flangeways are on the list of must haves. Mark There is a company that does a kit for a Beilhack plough (could be Brittania Pacific Models) the plough section from those looks similar to the ones that were attached direct to the locos by Eastfield TMD. Bry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard60098 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Hi Mark, I remember i had fots of this unrefurbished tractor with mini dog on my huge fotopic site but now sadly gone and wouldn't know were to start looking thru my boxs full of pics as i didn't back all up on disc only a few after scanning them! But one things for sure that 37 coming towards the camera is not 373 its more like 379 as see link/pic below 373 is missing all the lower section on the fronts this tractor has nothing missing! Cheers, Rick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I tend to agree, it is not 37373, which leaves 37379 as the only possibility As for what we may suspect is 37196 I have been looking closer If you look vertically below the Eastfield scotty dog, above the red stripe is a white stripe I've been looking at photos of 37196 in Red Stripe Railfreight and there is no such white stripe This is going to be the best way to be definitive, but I can't find any other locos with this (at the moment) I am actually wondering if this is 37/5, prior to repainting into Triple Grey? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 37 Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 Hi Mark, http://www.flickr.co...962/2381886853/ Cheers, Rick. Rick, I noticed on the photo in the link midway along the loco body there is a pretruding panel. Was this added as a result of an accident? Thanks, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard60098 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Evenin all, Yes i think you could be write mjkerr with the scotty dog red striper been a late addition to the crewe refurbishment scheme as its very rare you see a scotty dog on a red stripe tractor! Noted i think 370, 371, 372 & 373 all/some had salmons on there cabside/bodysides but this has really got me thinking now as to what she could be i've searched and searched now as its nigging me and i've come up with nothing seems to be these scottish examples are hard to get a definite 100% number on with the depot logo's added! I can confidently say that i'm 99% curtain its not 37196 thou as after looking at more pics the painted area where the red plates were was there before she got to scotland and never got sorted until been dutched up in the 90's also 196 has a none standard deeper red stripe, this tractor has standard height red stripe. Mark, Yes i think she was involved in an accident due to the lower fronts at both ends been completely removed as is with 37019 which was crash damaged two and had the same, similar treatment maybe the same works/depot fixed both 373 & 019 a pair i'd like to model due to there none standard fronts. Cheers, Rick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 http://www.flickr.co...962/2381886853/ How stupid are we! The loco partially visible is 37373, which is then had the Salmon covered in a Railfreight logo and a scotty dog applied Equally, the white stripe is in the exact same location and is identical in appearance (and that would have to be some coincidence if not the case) Strangely, there are no records for the loco having transferred from ML to ED, whilst as 37373, but it is possible it was temporary or someone made a mistake The person that took the photo has then got the numbers of the locos mixed up Therefore that is both of them now identified I am not sure about 37373 / 37160 having an accident resulting in the extreme cut away buffer beam, as both ends are identical Equally, photos in BR blue also show it like this after 1987 I suspect it was an experiment as part of its overhaul in 1987 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_t Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Cheers all - record keeping was never my strong point. The reason I went for 37 373 was that I had another shot of the loco at the same location, but I assumed through the mists of time it was the same loco as the one in the original photograph heading towards the camera. If I could log back into the website I'd update the captions, but since moving ISP I'm afraid I can't! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 37 Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 Thanks for all the hard effort that every contributor's to this thread have done. Many, many thanks, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard60098 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Lol we got there in the end then he he i don't know i was looking everywhere for a pic of this scotty dog loco and it was there on my link the hole time DOH! Well sorted now anyway. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 i was looking everywhere for a pic of this scotty dog loco However, the link you provided has it with a ML salmon, not a scotty dog I made the error of listing all the ED locos with Red Stripe Railfreight, this one sneeked through I no longer have my Platform 5 books from this time, but I seem to remember these locos swapped between ML and ED a few times I suspect this loco was intended to swap to ED, but it was so short a time it was not recorded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard60098 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Hi, Guess wat i've stumbled across see link yes 37373 with the scotty dog on lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 37 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 Great find Richard, I just need to get some funds together for the loco's, there just seems to be so much out just now that we would like and not enough hours in the day to make the cash needed. Best regards, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochnagar Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 The red stripe loco with the dog is 37160/37373. Same loco. It also had a Motherwell salmon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 The red stripe loco with the dog is 37160/37373. Same loco. It also had a Motherwell salmon. I thought the salmon was for Shields depot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochnagar Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I thought the salmon was for Shields depot. Nope, definitely Motherwell! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Class 37/3 based Motherwell(salmon) near mossand freight yard and class 37/3 twin hauled cement train from Scotland to north west Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I thought the salmon was for Shields depot. It was used at both Shields and Motherwell. Something to do with both being under the same area manager was it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.