Michael Delamar Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 I like shots like this... http://www.flickr.com/photos/72213853@N03/8175864352/ even though you need to zoom right in to see the mineral wagons, its atmospheric and inspirational to model the whole scene with things like the wagons just being part of it, they define an era. however this location has already been modelled. so some shots I may put in this thread you may not be able to see any detail of the wagons, but if its a shot of a long train it could give some people inspiration to model that whole train and scene. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 13CT08-01d by Vernon Sidlow, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 how I remember them,.. 47197 at Maghull, 8th July 1984 by Jjm2009, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) There are some interesting photographs of mineral wagons in this series http://www.drehschei....php?17,5721518 [and of industrial locos and scenes more generally] The 9th down is really nice, 5 minerals alternating between recent rebodies and non rebodies - and a navy blue locomotive with red detailing! Note - quite a number are internal user, and, on the Industrial railway society site there is discussion that the locations given are incorrect. Paul Bartlett Edited November 19, 2012 by hmrspaul 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted November 19, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 19, 2012 There are some interesting photographs of mineral wagons in this series http://www.drehschei....php?17,5721518 [and of industrial locos and scenes more generally] The 9th down is really nice, 5 minerals alternating between recent rebodies and non rebodies - and a navy blue locomotive with red detailing! Note - quite a number are internal user, and, on the Industrial railway society site there is discussion that the locations given are incorrect. Paul Bartlett I note an NCB blue wagon with the later NCB yellow lettering... didn't see many of those in Horden! Good details though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I note an NCB blue wagon with the later NCB yellow lettering... didn't see many of those in Horden! Good details though! I wouldn’t, have thought you see any... I thought they were mainly 21t hoppers on internals; at least they were for the couple of weeks I was there in 1978. I think that new script for the NCB came in about 1976-7, followed a couple of years after by the compulsory Orange overall scheme. Must go and check my letterheads from the time… Porcy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 Some in Crown street coal yard Liverpool.. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 One of Barking Bills that I don't think we've seen previously... Hi-Res R0788 by BarkingBill, on Flickr Porcy 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 More 7mm scale wagons, first from a Peco kit and second from a Parkside kit Nice work again. If I were to put my metaphorical toe in the virtual water, which one would you recommend? The PECO version has better solebar detail, methinks, but what about on an effort level? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGH Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Nice work again. If I were to put my metaphorical toe in the virtual water, which one would you recommend? The PECO version has better solebar detail, methinks, but what about on an effort level? On balance I think the Parkside are the easiest to assemble and probably best for a starter. The PECO is a bit more complex, having opening side and end doors with fiddly hinge details. The sides come in three sections, plus the top capping and the door, and getting it all together can be a bit tricky. The PECO is also a bit more expensive, but for very little more you could buy the ready assembled and painted LIONHEART TRAINS wagons, which are excellent although you do have to buy them in pairs. There is a bit more detail on the PECO solebar as you suggest and as shown below By the way, the pin holes in the brake lever guide on the PECO wagon may look a little uneven - that's because you have to drill them yourself ! Edited November 21, 2012 by PGH 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) On balance I think the Parkside are the easiest to assemble and probably best for a starter. The PECO is a bit more complex, having opening side and end doors with fiddly hinge details. The sides come in three sections, plus the top capping and the door, and getting it all together can be a bit tricky. The PECO is also a bit more expensive, but for very little more you could buy the ready assembled and painted LIONHEART TRAINS wagons, which are excellent although you do have to buy them in pairs. There is a bit more detail on the PECO solebar as you suggest and as shown below By the way, the pin holes in the brake lever guide on the PECO wagon may look a little uneven - that's because you have to drill them yourself ! Because they are different wagons.... The Peco is an early mineral with independent brakes, RCH plates etc whereas the Parkside are the standard 108 and has most of the solebar details that would be seen on such a wagon with welded frame. As mentioned the Peco has finer body detail. You need both, and the Lionheart rivetted version. Paul Bartlett Edited November 21, 2012 by hmrspaul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 On balance I think the Parkside are the easiest to assemble and probably best for a starter. The PECO is a bit more complex, having opening side and end doors with fiddly hinge details. The sides come in three sections, plus the top capping and the door, and getting it all together can be a bit tricky. The PECO is also a bit more expensive, but for very little more you could buy the ready assembled and painted LIONHEART TRAINS wagons, which are excellent although you do have to buy them in pairs. There is a bit more detail on the PECO solebar as you suggest and as shown below By the way, the pin holes in the brake lever guide on the PECO wagon may look a little uneven - that's because you have to drill them yourself ! Hi PGH, thanks for the advice - and going to the trouble of taking those snaps. I'm very grateful. And after bending up brake lever guides in 4mm, I figure that drilling a few holes may (may ) be better for my mental well-being. Because they are different wagons.... The Peco is an early mineral with independent brakes, RCH plates etc whereas the Parkside are the standard 108 and has most of the solebar details that would be seen on such a wagon with welded frame. As mentioned the Peco has finer body detail. You need both, and the Lionheart rivetted version. Paul Bartlett Hi Paul, Aha! Thanks for your info, and expertise. I didn't cotton on.... This potential "toe in the water" exercise is looking more and more like total body immersion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) 12/10/1981 - Tinsley East Junction. by 53A Models, on Flickr Edited December 15, 2012 by Andy Y Image removed due to copyright dispute. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 A well rusted PECO 7mm mineral, sat in the yard @ Clarbeston North 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 Class AL3 electric No E3098 by Jodel Aviator, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 Class 8F 2-8-0 No 48082 by Jodel Aviator, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 Brian Daniel's has given me permission to post this shot here. original flickr link.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/brianews/5733726663/ 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Those scrap metal thieves get everywhere - someones' nicked the cab off that shunter !! Mind you, someones' nicked the entire yard now. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 Lostock hall scrapline.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/90397953@N02/8227180389/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 Cronton http://www.flickr.com/photos/90397953@N02/8226625731/in/photostream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) This is probably my favorite thread, some really awesome shots on here that i wouldn't normally get to see .I always turn to this thread for inspiration dont let it end my layout needs it lol Edited December 4, 2012 by bri.s 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Cronton http://www.flickr.co.../in/photostream The lorry's quite interesting as well- an LAD-cabbed 'Chinese Six', as I believe they were called. This layout of axles was much more common with brewery drays than with tippers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) The lorry's quite interesting as well- an LAD-cabbed 'Chinese Six', as I believe they were called. This layout of axles was much more common with brewery drays than with tippers. Even more unusual, going on the wheels and cab panel combination (the short door and large arches), it seems to be a Leyland Comet/Super Comet - usually a 4-wheeled lorry - which suggests that the extra steering axle was a conversion. A very rare beast... Edit - It may even be a Dodge, not this one, but similar: Adam Edited December 5, 2012 by Adam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Lostock hall scrapline.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/90397953@N02/8227180389/ Some nice tank wagons in this, it looks like there are a pair of the Midland Railway tanks which were popular for local dispensing of fluids - such as http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmstank/ec5d848b There are several photos of them in Essery, R, J, (1980) An illustrated history of Midland Wagons, Volume 2, Oxford Publishing Co. SBN 86093 041 6. 169 pages Paul Bartlett 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) c.1966 - Sculcoates, Hull. by 53A Models, on Flickr Edited December 15, 2012 by Andy Y Image removed due to copyright dispute. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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