RMweb Premium gc4946 Posted May 26, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 26, 2011 I've taken delivery of a Bachmann 2EPB numbered 5764, which by 1981 was based at Wimbledon. I also own a kitbuilt Bulleid style 2EPB in rail blue, which by 1981 were all based at Selhurst. Were the Bulleid design 2EPBs ever based at Wimbledon during their lives? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 They were initally allocated to the Western division before being sent to their long-term home on the Central after the arrival of the ex-Tyneside 2_EPB's on the Western. However, inter-working of EMU's across all the three SR divisions was very very common over the years so it would have been very possible for an SR 2-EPB to have worked with the BR 2-EPB's anywhere on the region. Slade Green 4-EPB's were frequently used on the Central & Western to fill-in during unit shortages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium gc4946 Posted May 26, 2011 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 26, 2011 Thanks for this, until about 1973 EMUs weren't allocated to specific depots, and as you correctly say, they interworked over more than one division. Having said that I'll keep my Bachmann 2EPB as 5764 and imagine Wimbledon borrowed a Selhurst unit to make up a 4-car train to cover its planned diagram! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 The Bullied 2 EPBs ran the majority of the Waterloo -Windsor /Weybridge services (splitting/joining at Staines) I traveled on them most weeks in 1976/77 and can still here the sounds of their compressors in my ears now! Xerces Fobe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 26, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2011 There was, most weekdays, a morning and evening return CM&EE trip from Selhurst to Durnsford Road, so interchange between the depots was commonplace, and as those crews were available, the traffic department would occasionally use them to balance fleets if there were no CM&EE units to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium gc4946 Posted May 27, 2011 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2011 Thanks, so they did work on SW Division lines after all during the 70s. I sometimes saw WD-based 2 X 2EPBs or even a (Bulleid design) 4EPB attached to a CIG or VEP unit on Portsmouth Harbour services at the time. Also sometime in July 1981 a CIG plus 4EPB no. 5115, I remember that because of the last three digits being my house number and its distinctive 9-compt trailer, was on a service to the Harbour as I was watching from Portsmouth's Guildhall Square. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Thanks, so they did work on SW Division lines after all during the 70s. 4EPB no. 5115, and its distinctive 9-compt trailer, Aye - ex-first class trailer with bit more leg room , there were a couple of other EPB's with these too - always used to head for them when travelling CX - Gillingham The three Southern Repair shops at Slade Green , Chart Leacon and Selhurst as well as Eastleigh Works used to undertake very heavy repair of the Southern's EMU fleet that amounted to virtually a complete rebuild from chassis and bodyshell which certainly contributed to the longevity of the EPB fleet - the bodies started to go in their last years but mechanically and electrically they were still fine. Anyway, the work undertaken by these shops resulted in EMU's from all over the region being seen all over the region. 4-REP's were regular visitors to Ashford for example. Excursions and xmas parcels traffic also resulted in odd workings too. I remember seeing 2 "special" trains go through Gillingham en route to Ramsgate one Sunday in 1972(?) each formed of 3 x 4-CIG's and from memory comprised the last six 4-CIG's delivered numerically - they were absolutely pristine and must almost have been on their first passenger workings (you could smell the new paint as they passed)! I'd be interested to know if anyone out there in RM web land has details of these workings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted May 27, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2011 I sometimes saw WD-based 2 X 2EPBs or even a (Bulleid design) 4EPB attached to a CIG or VEP unit on Portsmouth Harbour services at the time. At Portsmouth Harbour, this may of course have been a Central Division service from Brighton/Littlehampton. Mixing used to happen with 4-SUBs and EPBs. Dorking and Effingham Junction, for example, stabled both Western and Central Division sets overnight and occasionally they didn't get sent back where they came from. I remember one case where Selhurst's 4754 was dud at Dorking on a Saturday morning for the first up Victoria and a SW set - 4662 IIRC - was used, split from a SW 8-car in the sidings. But in the 70s, there were depot allocations of sorts - "WDON" and "SHST" were carried by SUBs and EPBs until the new two letter codes were introduced. Don't know about the Eastern section mind - "SGRN" perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 But in the 70s, there were depot allocations of sorts - "WDON" and "SHST" were carried by SUBs and EPBs until the new two letter codes were introduced. Don't know about the Eastern section mind - "SGRN" perhaps? FTON, BOMO, SLGN, RMGT = Fratton, Bournemouth, Slade Green , Ramsgate and I think SLEO = St Leonards ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY444 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 FTON, BOMO, SLGN, RMGT = Fratton, Bournemouth, Slade Green , Ramsgate and I think SLEO = St Leonards ??? The full set were: BOMO WDON FTON ELGH BTON SHST SLGN RMGT SLEO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium gc4946 Posted May 27, 2011 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2011 SLEO was St Leonards BTW. I'll upload photos of my 2 X 2EPB combination as part of my Horniman Park layout thread once my laptop's returned sometime this weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 They probably were interworked. I must have driven them, but then I was only paid to drive them! I let others do the gricing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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