Adrian Wintle Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Window frames aren't so much of an issue if you are doing them in 'as-built' condition (i.e. the first few years of service), as I am. I did a cut-n-shut of the Airfix brake third to get the left-hand one, but I'm not completely satisfied with the result. Otherwise my coaches are overlays (third, dining third, one brake compo), original Airfix (compo, RH brake third), and Comet kits (restaurant first, other brake compo). Hmm... I guess I said all that earlier in the thread. I guess I really should do some more work on my set. Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted May 22, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 22, 2013 It is one advantage of the BSL/Phoenix kit. The sides are all one piece and pre formed to shape. Also the roof, being a pressing, fits on top of the ends with no fit issues Sadly no window frames where Comet have a definite advantage. Picked this up for £5 as shown with a H33 diner. Mike Wiltshire There is a BSL comp on eBay at the moment, but I don't see the point with so many Airfix compo in my hands at the moment...... What this thread is proving though is how many people want a complete rake of Centenary carriages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted May 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 22, 2013 There is a BSL comp on eBay at the moment, but I don't see the point with so many Airfix compo in my hands at the moment...... What this thread is proving though is how many people want a complete rake of Centenary carriages! Yes there's currently 30 centenary coaches on ebay at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted May 22, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 22, 2013 Yes there's currently 30 centenary coaches on ebay at the moment. Blimey - how many rakes are we building now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted May 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 22, 2013 Blimey - how many rakes are we building now! None I'm done on building centenaries.I need something to pull them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I can never understand why non of the etchers produce the Centenary K42 1/2 Full brake Mike Wiltshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted May 28, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 28, 2013 Very nice Mike - have you produced the etches yourself? Are they sitting on Airfix Centenary carriage chassis? Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Very nice Mike - have you produced the etches yourself? Are they sitting on Airfix Centenary carriage chassis? Regards, Cut and shut from two scrap Airfix brake thirds. Keep roof in one piece and cut away compartment sections from guard's door to end. Cut equivalent van section from second coach, glue, fill and sand. Only takes a couple of hours. Still have roof water tank to remove, sort missing footstep below van doors at steps end and replace broken buffer, and body is ready for the spray cans. I will give the underframe a complete makeover with Comet V hangers, put in brake rodding etc. Mike Wiltshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted May 28, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2013 Cut and shut from two scrap Airfix brake thirds. Keep roof in one piece and cut away compartment sections from guard's door to end. Cut equivalent van section from second coach, glue, fill and sand. Only takes a couple of hours. Still have roof water tank to remove, sort missing footstep below van doors at steps end and replace broken buffer, and body is ready for the spray cans. I will give the underframe a complete makeover with Comet V hangers, put in brake rodding etc. Mike Wiltshire Can't find this in Russells coach books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Higgi Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Hauled by a GWR 4-12-0 no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Hauled by a GWR 4-12-0 no doubt. Actually it will be running with an ex Lancashire and Yorkshire Hughes-Flamme 2-10-0, on trial with the GWR over the Somerset and Devon banks. Mike Wiltshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted January 7, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2014 I had the Centenary carriage out at the weekend... to see who quickly I could finish it.... I wasn't that happy with it to be honest, which is why it has been such a protracted project. The body does not follow the line of the roof correctly and whilst i filled it, I am still not happy. However! - The good news was that i put it onto some Bachmann Collett bogies and it spun round the layout behind some Bachmann carriages very well. I have so many half completed projects on the railway, but this is one I really do want to get done. Just need a 2014 (new tooled) King to go with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted February 12, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12, 2014 WANTED! Does anyone have the sides for the Restaurant Open 3rd? - Just hanging around and they don't want them anymore? I've just found out that the Etch moulds(?) were lost in a change of manufacturer a few years ago and Comet do not have any. Nor are they going to produce any more. Comet kit W76 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted February 12, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2014 Good luck Neal.This is a real bu**er for the likes of you who need to complete the rake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob O Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 WANTED! Does anyone have the sides for the Restaurant Open 3rd? - Just hanging around and they don't want them anymore? I've just found out that the Etch moulds(?) were lost in a change of manufacturer a few years ago and Comet do not have any. Nor are they going to produce any more. Comet kit W76 Thanks. Oh Dear! Is that just the RO or all of the Centenary Sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted February 13, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2014 Just the Open 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted May 31, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2014 Update 31st May 2014 Professional help was required ... thanks to http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/user/2326-mallard60022/ who stepped into the breach and sent back some lovely sides for the Restaurant carriage: Further details to follow once we have moved..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted May 31, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2014 That was a shrewd move Neal as those insets on those sides are a pain to get right.One note though is that the windows are only suitable for later than 1938 [?] as the coaches were first released into traffic with the becawlet type.If you model 1935/36 you need to remove the top of the etch as they stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted June 4, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 4, 2014 That was a shrewd move Neal as those insets on those sides are a pain to get right.One note though is that the windows are only suitable for later than 1938 [?] as the coaches were first released into traffic with the becawlet type.If you model 1935/36 you need to remove the top of the etch as they stand. Correct of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted June 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 4, 2014 Snip, snip, snip........if I had only known....... that that was what Neal wanted........ edit to add last 6 words. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artisan100 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Phil, If you're anything like me then there's a lot of things we don't know, but if you're referring to the windows in W76 then this is a quote from the prototype information sheet that came with the sides :- "Initially the windows were of the wind down “Beclawat” type but these were replaced in 1938 with the more conventional 4 element sliding vents." Cheers, Geoff Comet Models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted June 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2014 I was surprised to find that Beclawat were still in business, still making windows - I'd only encountered the name in connection with Centenary stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Is theirs not the mechanism used in the droplights on the BR Mk 1 family? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I was surprised to find that Beclawat were still in business, still making windows..... So was I.... Is theirs not the mechanism used in the droplights on the BR Mk 1 family? ...and the glass in some of the District Line stock.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted June 6, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 6, 2014 Snip, snip, snip........if I had only known....... that that was what Neal wanted........ edit to add last 6 words. P To be honest Phil, I was aware of the changes, but did not give a thought to remove the parts of the etch..... Was just going to turn a blind eye..... I'm sure I read somewhere that although the date was 1938..... They trie them out initially in 1936 :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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