Guest Max Stafford Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Beware of that caption 'Chard. For 'Berwick' read 'Tweedmouth' (52D). Tweedmouth locos could find themselves on the Waverley by a couple of means; kicked out on a quick job by 64A/B whilst lying over on an official diagrammed job and also as part of a 'circular' diagram via the N&C or Edinburgh. In the '50s, you might get one coming over the Kelso line to St B's and getting borrowed for a Hawick job for instance. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 Aye, I noticed a Class 4 allegedly heading in the opposite direction to what the lens was plainly telling me, too. Those captions are a minefield, especially to us hot water Johnny-come-latelies! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Stick to my wing son, you'll be OK...! Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Well done for having access to those essential Locosheds by the way! Yes, they can be very useful, but they're so old and fragile (and they weren't made to last in the first place) that there's only so many uses left in them. One of them is already in loose-leaf format! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Look at this!!! From 3:30 to 6:00 - Carlisle Kingmoor in 1966/67, in all its grimy glory! (I think some people may need to lie down after watching.) Before that, there's some footage of banking from Tebay, and following are some shots of Citadel, plus a trip over the S&C, then down to Blackburn. This is part 2 of a film. Part 1 is completely concerned with steam at Tebay, including a lot of footage of bankers (the good kind!). Buckdancer posted the link to part 1 over on the 'Railway footage in feature films and television' topic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 At 7.40 ish D297 trundles out of the Citadel with the secondman standing inside the loco's nose wiping its windscreen! Where did that appear in the rulebook!!! At 5.30 odd a nano-glimpse of a very early Rail Blue Peak. Fantastic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Who ever filmed this was aiming for the entire atmosphere of the time and place, not just the engines. Succeeded admirably in my view. Agreed, 'Chard; that is a very interesting use of the bonnet-top hatches - these guys certainly had an intelligence and initiative that has been programmed out these days! Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 67489, C16 4-4-2T, Hawick, 1958: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=36768 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roygraham Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 As it was, Riccarton about the time of WWI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37175 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Great photo Roy, got a copy of this somewhere! It's always nice to see the old north bay though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roygraham Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Hi 37175, notice anything strange about it? roygraham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 There's nothing jumping out at me Roy but there again, I'm unfamiliar with this era of Riccarton's existence at the moment. More early period research required I guess. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roygraham Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Look at South S.B. Roof line?????? roygraham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 Look at South S.B. Roof line?????? Hmmmm.... http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=22698 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roygraham Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 So, when did you last see a picture of the South Box with a pinnacle roof rather than a hipped one. roygraham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37175 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Missed all the fun ... that'll teach me to concentrate on moving house rather than the important things like turning on my PC! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37175 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Here's another signal box which you may notice something different about: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 So, when and why was it rebuilt? Fire damage perhaps? You can see that in this case it's got a generic NB appearance. The later box looks more akin in style to the bigger Border Counties types to my eye. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37175 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 It looks like simply the top section was rebuilt, with three brick courses remaining above the two yellow courses that "jut out". One thing that always struck me about Whitrope box was that unlike many boxes it had two chimneys. Two fireplaces perhaps? One on each level, the lower one to prevent the severe weather up there freezing the interlocking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roygraham Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 So, when and why was it rebuilt? Fire damage perhaps? You can see that in this case it's got a generic NB appearance. The later box looks more akin in style to the bigger Border Counties types to my eye. Dave. Hi Dave, I would say just the opposite. The pinnacle roof is typically Border Counties, as, with the exception of Reedsmouth they all had that type of roof (still don't know about Plashetts). Even Border Counties junction had a pinnacle roof. I would go so far as to suggest that Riccarton South was built as part of the Border Counties contract, perhaps to relieve the pressure on an over-stretched Riccarton Central?). roygraham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 It looks like simply the top section was rebuilt, with three brick courses remaining above the two yellow courses that "jut out". Interesting. In later days the balcony handrail was higher than the window sill. This looks as though it wasn't altered when the windows were changed. It's only now that you have produced this photo that I can see how odd it looks in the revised arrangement.Two or three courses of brick would seem to have been removed as the replacement windows are deeper than the original. The sign was in later days on the other face of the box and has also gained a siding and reversed it's colour. That raises the question. Were any other boxes buit in this style and subsequently altered? Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Anyone know what 6S61 was? http://www.flickr.co...N08/6435718305/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Jamieson Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 c. 1964 6S61 was the 1pm Carlisle Yard to Millerhill via Carstairs. Usual power was an ex LNER loco (B1 or V2) although I have seen the odd shot of it headed by a Black 5. See http://www.railbrit.co.uk/location.php?photographer=Robin_Barbour_Collection_%5BCourtesy_Bruce_McCartney%5D&loc=Gretna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Thanks Bill, you beat me to that one. I've seen a couple of Derek Cross photos with a B1 and a V2 on. Probably an occasional day out for a 12A Britannia too in 1965-6 if there was bother with the 64A offering. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Jamieson Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Hi Dave, We've probably been looking at the same albums! I see that in "Roaming the Scottish Rails" Derek Cross states he once saw an A3 on the working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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