250BOB Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 HI Guys, I am trying, for a friend of mine, to find out some details about the Hornby Q1 model, the various releases. I shall ask the questions here, but please point me in the right direction with some links, if the information is on here somewhere. He has recently purchased Hornby model 33002....so my questions have a particular reference to that model. 1. Did the prototype have a lubricating rod as built.? 2. Did all the prototypes eventually receive this rod, is there anywhere I can see dates when they were done.? 3. The model of early crest 33002, has no lubricating rod, did it ever get one, and if so, when. 4. I understand you can buy the lubricating rod......how easy are they to fit.? I would be grateful of any help and assistance you could give us on these questions please. regards.................Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Ava_Hay Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I can only comment on the model as I have 33019 which has this feature. Having had to repair it due to an accident with a soldering iron I can tell you that is consists of a crank operating from the front left driving wheel. The crank is attached to the axle using the familiar shouldered screw and it is important that this is fastened correctly so that the crank faces across the axle. The oiler is a plastic moulding that is both small and fastened to the vestigial running plate which is part of the chassis on this model. This moulding is definitely made of polythene and the chassis is the usual hard plastic so glueing problems arise. The crank just oscillates around a polythene knob on the oiler ( which I melted by accident ). The size of this knob might well preclude later fitting of the crank without danger of breaking or bending something. I can't help with the prototype question but I am sure that one of the gurus on here or semgonline.com will be able to help you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted March 14, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2012 Hi Bob Not all Q1's received the mechanical lubricator and C2 (33002) was one that did not so Hornby have correctly modelled it in that respect. They prototype did not have the mechanical lubricator fitted at any time. They were retro fitted to some members of the class but not all and with no apparent pattern. I do not have the actual fitting dates but the following I know received them: 33006-10,15-18, 20, 24, 27, 31-33, 36-38 and 40. My records do not indicate if the following had them fitted or not: 33013/14, 19, 25, 30, 34/35 and 39 Those not listed above did not have them fitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 Hi Graham, Many thanks indeed for your detailed information on the Q1 questions....with particular reference to 33002. I shall pass on your answers to Ed, my colleague, who I know will be really grateful. Thanks..........................Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Rite Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Hi Bob Not all Q1's received the mechanical lubricator and C2 (33002) was one that did not so Hornby have correctly modelled it in that respect. They prototype did not have the mechanical lubricator fitted at any time. They were retro fitted to some members of the class but not all and with no apparent pattern. I do not have the actual fitting dates but the following I know received them: 33006-10,15-18, 20, 24, 27, 31-33, 36-38 and 40. My records do not indicate if the following had them fitted or not: 33013/14, 19, 25, 30, 34/35 and 39 Those not listed above did not have them fitted. Hi Graham, 33039 certainly had the lubricator drive fitted, it was a St.Leonards West Marina loco that my Stepfather fired on many times when the loco was based there, I have a framed photo of her in Eastliegh yard on July the 28th 1963 still sporting the cycling lion (West Marina knew how to look after it's loco's and the still had their own painter so touch ups were always the norm) on a very clean engine. Cheers (lived in St. Leonards from 1945 to 1967) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 Hi Graham, 33039 certainly had the lubricator drive fitted, it was a St.Leonards West Marina loco that my Stepfather fired on many times when the loco was based there, I have a framed photo of her in Eastliegh yard on July the 28th 1963 still sporting the cycling lion (West Marina knew how to look after it's loco's and the still had their own painter so touch ups were always the norm) on a very clean engine. Cheers (lived in St. Leonards from 1945 to 1967) Hi Wayne Rite, I'm sure Graham would be pleased to hear of such information, and will amend his records accordingly...he may need visual confirmation.?? Thanks.......Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I can only comment on the model as I have 33019 which has this feature. Having had to repair it due to an accident with a soldering iron I can tell you that is consists of a crank operating from the front left driving wheel. The crank is attached to the axle using the familiar shouldered screw and it is important that this is fastened correctly so that the crank faces across the axle. The oiler is a plastic moulding that is both small and fastened to the vestigial running plate which is part of the chassis on this model. This moulding is definitely made of polythene and the chassis is the usual hard plastic so glueing problems arise. The crank just oscillates around a polythene knob on the oiler ( which I melted by accident ). The size of this knob might well preclude later fitting of the crank without danger of breaking or bending something. I can't help with the prototype question but I am sure that one of the gurus on here or semgonline.com will be able to help you Does anybody know if R3011 33005 has the mechanical lubricator fitted? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted May 4, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 4, 2013 Miles No, R3011 33005 does not have the mechanical lubricator fitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slohcin Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I have the Hornby model of 33017, which has the oiler. Question: How do you stop the crank falling off the little plastic spigot? It looks as though a solder iron is not he solution, dwhite4dcc was unsuccessful! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 I had one drop off. My solution was to cut the damaged spigot off and drill a #76 hole, superglue a spot of handrail wire into it, thread the lubricator arm onto the wire, bend the end over and cut off any excess. Once painted black it doesn't really show. It is crude and slightly inelegant but it works! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slohcin Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Thanks, not elegant as you say, but beats the bloody thing falling off all the time. Poor design on Hornby's part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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