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Today I did something I should have done ages ago, namely batch production. Instead of cutting up each Pandrol clip then fitting it separately, I cut lots up in advance then stuck them down in one go. Don't know if it actually saved any time but it did seem less boring. So all I need to do now with this point is ballast it.

 

I have also painted some white lines along the edge of the walkway to the groundframe. I did this in a very watery white so that they look worn and not too white.

 

Here a some snaps that hopefully show in detail what I have been doing.

 

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Steve

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I got the last point ballasted yesterday, there just needs a little to be done once all the buildings are secure.

 

In a day or two I will give the layout a good vacumn and fix the backscene on. Has anyone used 3M spray mount for this?

 

As well as the completed trackwork I thought that it would be a good idea to include an overall view of the layout (and all the mess).

 

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Steve

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I came across your layout only today and I must admit that it is incredibly detailed for a small space.

With regards to the ballasting, is it common to have two colour types? Does this kind of signify the difference between the main running line and siding?

I am not sure what type of ballast to use myself for a early BR Diesel period depot syle layout (small scale 8' x 2'). Experimenting. it would seem that after applying the PVA/Water mix, it dries quite a bit darker than expected.

Any advice is welcome.

Cheers.

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Thanks Ray for the comments.

 

The lighter ballast is to represent track that has been relayed replaced/rationalised recently. It does look better in the flesh so to speak. I will give the flat bottom track a light dry brushing.

 

The lighter ballast is from Slaters unfortunately I can't remember where the darker one came from as it's left over from my other layout (12 years ago).

 

I have used the Klea/IPA mix as suggested by our forum leader Andy Y

 

Hope that helps, Steve

 

(If anyone thinks that I have got the ballast thing wrong please let me know)

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Looking good Steve :)

 

I have used photo-backscenes,

and find them a bit tricky to use

 

It also depends onto what sort of surface you are sticking them....

I've used hardboard, and I would say "beware"!

A previous background expanded when wet with glue,

and then shrank again as it dried - result - it lifted off the hardboard

 

I would always use something to prime the surface onto which you are mounting the backscene

eg. flat white / grey undercoat

And perhaps, I'd go for using "bendy MDF" as a base?

 

I used photo spray mount, but you can get "air bubbles" when you stick the backscene down

 

Barry Ten told me he saw some backscene adhesive (I think it was a woodland scenics product?)

In our local Ian Allen shop....

 

I would try small piece, or offcut beforehand, just to get a feel for what works best

I've tried several different ways of using these backscenes,

and I'd be interested to know what you find works best.....

 

Cheers again,

and this layout is looking better all the time

 

Marc

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Looking good Steve :)

 

I have used photo-backscenes,

and find them a bit tricky to use

 

It also depends onto what sort of surface you are sticking them....

I've used hardboard, and I would say "beware"!

A previous background expanded when wet with glue,

and then shrank again as it dried - result - it lifted off the hardboard

 

I would always use something to prime the surface onto which you are mounting the backscene

eg. flat white / grey undercoat

And perhaps, I'd go for using "bendy MDF" as a base?

 

I used photo spray mount, but you can get "air bubbles" when you stick the backscene down

 

Barry Ten told me he saw some backscene adhesive (I think it was a woodland scenics product?)

In our local Ian Allen shop....

 

I would try small piece, or offcut beforehand, just to get a feel for what works best

I've tried several different ways of using these backscenes,

and I'd be interested to know what you find works best.....

 

Cheers again,

and this layout is looking better all the time

 

Marc

 

Thanks for the advice Marc. I also feel like giving some double sided tape ago, at the top and bottom, as any ridges would be hidden by the buildings and facia pelmet respectively

 

Steve

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Good luck with that,

and let us know how you get on

 

I did hear of someone else using double-sided tape

but I was concerned that you may be able to see where the edge of the tape is,

through the background? Perhaps don't rub it down too hard?

 

Cheers again

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Hi steve

I'm really enjoying watching this develop, it has a good feel about it.

I'm going to ask three really mundane questions, I hope you don't mind?

1) where did you get the clear section from to make the lights on the building?

2) whose is the corrugated sheet on the same half brick, half blue sheet building

3) how did you make the capping stones for the wall

 

Cheers

Guy

 

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Hi steve

I'm really enjoying watching this develop, it has a good feel about it.

I'm going to ask three really mundane questions, I hope you don't mind?

1) where did you get the clear section from to make the lights on the building?

2) whose is the corrugated sheet on the same half brick, half blue sheet building

3) how did you make the capping stones for the wall

 

Cheers

Guy

 

 

No problem re-questions!

 

The clear section came from a trader on eBay - did a search for clear plastic rodding (sorry can't remember who it was)

The blue box section is from Wills just stippled was a brush

The capping stones are plastic section scored to represent individual stones (Evergreen part no 168)

 

BTW the join in the wall is meant to be there, it represents some modern walls that have a rubbery/tar compound between sections.

 

Hope that helps Steve

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I think that my question my have been lost within the photos and other chat....

 

Does the the layout look better with or without the large building on the right now that the backscene is in place. Maybe I should I just put some 'hard standing' there instead of the building, with a Portacabin and a fork lift? I could also put a small wall at the back to hide the backscene join.

 

Also as the the layout has side wings, I might be able to get away without a bridge on the right. I am thinking of raising the land where the carpark is and putting some trees behind the re-cycling bins.

 

I am considering using a Scenescene modern bridge on the left of the layout.

 

Thanks in advance Steve

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Thanks Guy. *When I first built the buildings on the wall I had planned to increase the height the wall to the right of the last building so that I could put a bridge over the tracks from there. I now think that a bridge would make the right too cramped, so I am open to ideas with what to to the right of the wall, as it the area to the right is at ground level. Definately think I will not use the Kibri building on the right of the pictures on this layout.

 

*Pugsley did that on his layout Chittle, which is where I got the idea for for the raised buildings.

 

 

 

 

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This should go nicely on the left

 

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Here......

 

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Steve

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More deliberation....again nothing stuck down yet hence gaps lopsidedness etc etc.

 

(Sorry about the loose bit on the main building only noticed after I took the picture).

 

A small facility seems to fill the gap nicely, I could have some steps down from the wall to tie it in too. I would also extend the small curved fence and wall to fit.

 

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Hi Steve,

 

Re your question...

I did see it, but decided to come back to it and have another look....

 

I really did like the look of it there, I must say

I think as a sort of "enter stage right" - it looked the part,

in that as you watch a train entering view there,

it forms a nice, solid, industrial, long-standing look

 

Somehow, without it there, the scene looks "newer"

as if it were a yard built more recently....

that may of course be what you're after,

or may not matter at all.....

 

An overall pic with, and without, and with the new bit in place,

from the same viewpoint would help others

- and maybe even you decide

 

.... have you got a tripod? - so you can take exactly the same shot,

with the different arrangements.....

 

If it was my layout - I think I'd keep that building,

but it isn't, and only you can judge the overall effect,

when viewing the layout "in the flesh"

 

Oooh decisions, decisions ;)

 

Cheers

Marc

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An overall pic with, and without, and with the new bit in place,

from the same viewpoint would help others

- and maybe even you decide

 

.... have you got a tripod? - so you can take exactly the same shot,

with the different arrangements.....

 

I don't have a tripod but I was able to take the layout into the garden and use some garden furniture....

 

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Still can't decide....

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Definately prefer some building being there, as opposed to none...

Think I still prefer the old warehouse,

but looking at that, I think I'd make it a disused warehouse...

 

But then I seem to like the "run down" look.....

... a deep psychological problem? - perhaps ;)

 

Hmm, decisions decisions......

 

I'll look again later....

 

Whichever you decide to go for,

I'm sure it'll be the right choice

 

Cheers again

 

Marc

PS. I'm enjoying this

Have we started layout building at a distance?

Is it concievable that someone build a layout - BUT

all major decisions are made by proxy, from a distance???

 

Have I just suggested the next rmweb challenge?

Why are those men in white coats looking at me.........

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Thanks Marc again.

 

(I have a fascination of old decaying buildings regularly looking at www.28dayslater.co.uk)

 

How about leaving the warehouse looking rundown, with a modern anex - something that VDA vans can be shunted into. I used to work for British Vita and there were lots of old mill buildings with modern box section cladding attached.

 

Steve

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