uglykidjoe Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 Does anyone think that the Kibri buildings overpower the layout (see post 18)? Should I just go for some house backs from Scalescenes? I am going to use the ID backscenes "Into the Town". Thanks in advance Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Does anyone think that the Kibri buildings overpower the layout (see post 18)? Should I just go for some house backs from Scalescenes? I am going to use the ID backscenes "Into the Town". Thanks in advance Steve Hi Steve, Only just spotted this thread, and I must say, I really like it It does have a sense of space about the design, and I especially like the retaining wall, and patch of grass verge in the middle of the background...... In answer to your question, I do like those Kibri buildings they have a nice industrial feel to them... It's difficult to tell from those photos whether or not they dominate or overpower the scene I'd say not, at the moment, but take care in painting them - make them a tad paler than the shades of buildings nearer the front.. Also, I do like the open area between the track at the rear, and the retaining wall I think that helps create a sense of space, so I'd keep that fairly "open" and without too much "fussy" detail in it - perhaps some concrete or tarmac surface? post some more pics, from different angles as you progress with the layout.... make sure the buildings are still easily removed, that way, you can always have a go at moving them about, until you're 100 per cent happy Nice work sir! Cheers Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglykidjoe Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 Thanks Marc (and for the kind words). Yes the only thing in that area will be faded tarmac with a couple of vehicles parked there.The only detail will be the transformers and some crash barriers. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Thanks Marc (and for the kind words). Yes the only thing in that area will be faded tarmac with a couple of vehicles parked there.The only detail will be the transformers and some crash barriers. Steve Hi Steve, I think that will help separate the buildings from the railway, and hope that will help the buildings not look too dominant... Keep posting pics though, and asess as you go along... though I think it will look fine Cheers again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglykidjoe Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 Thanks again, I'll will get some pictures done in a day or two. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglykidjoe Posted June 14, 2012 Author Share Posted June 14, 2012 I have moved some of the buildings around and placed some smaller ones at the rear. The building with the Northlight windows I hope looks the part. The buildings are not stuck down yet that's why some are a bit lopsided. Hopefully these pictures give a better idea of the overall look of the layout. Once I have decided on the placement of the buildings, I can then finish the retaining wall off and finsih the ballasting. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I do like that new low relief building in the centre nice work again.... I also like the Kibri range of industrial buildings... They are great kits, and look very much at home on British based layouts Another positive factor, is that as they are HO, they can help the perspective effect, when used in the background More pics please as you go along PS. The retaining wall, the patch of overgrown embankment, with fencing, road and buildings behind really does give a nice sense of depth Cheers Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglykidjoe Posted June 14, 2012 Author Share Posted June 14, 2012 Thanks Marc. The new building has been raised in height because it was a bit virtically challanged...it has been weathered a little using artists' pencils. The big door has been grafted in from another Kibri kit.Just needs the roof finishing now I am happy with it. I think I will stick with the buildings as they are now - provided they flow correctly when I try out the back scene. So there is now a 50-50 mix of scratch and kit built buildings although the kits have been modified (both kits are two kits joined to together) Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Like the buildings in the backscene, where did the building with the quater rounded roof on it come from, it reminds me of a place i used to work at back in the late 80's !!!! Steve.B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglykidjoe Posted June 14, 2012 Author Share Posted June 14, 2012 Like the buildings in the backscene, where did the building with the quater rounded roof on it come from, it reminds me of a place i used to work at back in the late 80's !!!! Steve.B Hi Steve it is two Kibri kits reduced in depth and joined together. It reminds me of some of the buildings that used to be on ICI sites. I have finished of the roof on this this afternoon and weathered it slightly more. Regards Steve (another Steve B ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglykidjoe Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Hope nobody minds, but here are some more pictures now that the new building is in place. The greenery is starting to look a bit better too I hope you aggree. The layout will displayed in a quite high position so the fact that the buildings are only low-relief should not be too noticable. My fav. picture is the one with the cement tank framed by the bushes, as that has captured the look of the layout I am trying to achieve. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc smith Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Hope nobody minds, but here are some more pictures now that the new building is in place. The greenery is starting to look a bit better too I hope you aggree..... Steve Hi again Steve, no, we really don't mind more pics.... honest Yes, it's looking great, and I think the added height works too mind you, you wouldn't want all the buildings being the same height... Different roof levels really break the scene up, and add viewing interest As above posters have said, those quarter-rounded rooves look great... Wish I could pick up some Kibri buildings a bit easier Well done on the extending the building too... nice Cheers again Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglykidjoe Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 Thanks Marc, here's some more. A RES Class 47 worries some wagons.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglykidjoe Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 No sooner than I started ballasting my track one of the BluePoint point motors has jammed solid - typical! It has not got glue in it as in was wrapped with cling film when I ballasted around it. Hopefully I can unscrew the motor and take it apart. I am not looking forward to threading the actuation wire back up through the point from underneath though. Otherwise as the point is nearest to the backscene I might be able to run some wire in tube to a slider switch without causing too much disruption to the layout. So much for getting the backscene done today. I have nearly completed adding the pandrol clips to one of the copper clad points and filling in the gapped sections with model filler though. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglykidjoe Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 As the layout is designed to be operated for the front or rear, I have been sorting out the point control today. When in the garage the layout will be up against the wall. I have sorted out the jammed 'motor'. The bar is some welding rod fed through a small hole in the baseboard front with the handle made form electrical connectors (choc-block) inners. This allows the end stops to be adusted. "Simples!" The rear controls will be made using the Bluepoint kits/knobs. Adding the cosmetic Pandrol clips to the points is taking a lot longer than I thought, so I am swapping onto ther tasks so I don't loose my modelling mojo. That's another advantage of small layouts the tedious tasks are really not that big. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Hi uglykidjoe, I have just read through this thread (in my lunch hour!) You have incorporated some interesting design features. I am particularly interested to see that you are adding cosmetic chairs to the copper-clad pointwork. Can I ask for a picture once you have done one with pandrol fixings? All the best, Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglykidjoe Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 Hi Colin I am just cutting them in half (slightly undercutting the Pandrol clip so it fits over the rail) replacing the scapel blade regularly. It is really tedious but will be worth it. Then gluing them in place with 'superglue'. Of course I will post some pictures when done - the points look a little messy at the moment as the insulation gaps have been filled with filler. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglykidjoe Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 Can I ask for a picture once you have done one with pandrol fixings? All the best, Colin He are a some of pictures of the first completed copper-clad point. Whilst it may not be totally prototypical it I hope looks correct and at the very least does not look like a copper-clad point with the insulation gaps visible. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglykidjoe Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 I have been toning down the ballast on the left handside of the layout, adding weeds and have put the layout on some the racking I used on my old layout. Controversially the layout is now at eye level. This makes it easy to work on, and makes the layout appear bigger. I have included a picture of my trusty Lima class09 and Crownline chassis, this used to run really well, it's not DCC yet though. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Thanks for the pictures of the flat-bottom railed points with their Pandrol fittings Steve, They look very nicely made. You must have used a minimal amount of solder on each joint to make it possible to fit the 'half-chairs'. Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglykidjoe Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 Thanks for the pictures of the flat-bottom railed points with their Pandrol fittings Steve, They look very nicely made. You must have used a minimal amount of solder on each joint to make it possible to fit the 'half-chairs'. Colin Thanks Colin, yes that's the key. If there is too much solder in can be filed away or scraped off using a blade. Flatbottom rail is quite easy to solder to the sleepers but takes lots more effort to file to shape. It has to be said it is debatable if the chairs/pandrol clips are actually required on the far side of the rails, because at normal viewing distances now that the layout is at eye level, they can't be seen. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglykidjoe Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 Here are some more pictures although they are from a similar viewpoint I hope that they show that even when there is some stock on the layout does not look too cramped. I will dig out my Bachmann 08 for the next pictures Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglykidjoe Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 I have also just tested the lights on one of the buildings at the rear. The building, and all the others, is just resting hence the gaps etc. The lights are made from clear section plastic square rod, the 'bulb' is just a fibre-optic cable put into a small hole at the rear. The fibre-optic cable goes to a ultra-white LED held by heatshrink. They do look less bright in 'real life' Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhinton Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 hi, i dont like calling people ugly so i will call you kid joe hey kid joe howcome ive never seen this brilliant layout before! keep up the good work! a nice bit of grime would go well with that gronk well done thanks dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglykidjoe Posted July 10, 2012 Author Share Posted July 10, 2012 Thanks Dan for the kind words. I have just never had the heart to weather it, so it's in ex-works condition. It looks okay in isolation but along side the Bachmann and Hornby ones it looks very dated. One day I might get round to putting a Bach/Hornby shell on its Crownline chassis. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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