shortliner Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I have never been a great one for recognizing the difference between different types/models of locos. This one suffered a minor accident and broke the rear left corner of the cab end beside the steps. Apart from believing it is an Alco S series (don't hold me to that - I'm probably wrong!) it was picked up second-hand, almost certainly re-painted, and not in the right box. It is an Athearn Blue Box - could someone please identify the model#/type/, so that I can look on ebay for a replacement shell - unless anyone has a spare shell looking for a home - road name really doesn't matter! Your assistance would be much appreciated Thanks Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Tuxedo Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Hi Jack, It's an old Athearn "Blue Box" Baldwin S-12. Seen here... http://www.ho-scaletrains.net/athearnlocomotives/id94.html Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 (edited) So I DID manage to get the type wrong too! ah, well! Thanks for the ident! Edited May 17, 2012 by shortliner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Jack Yep,Athearn Baldwin S12 same as my #9 but with the side handrails Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 the third time of trying to reply - Thanks - seems like shells are few and far between though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Have you tried the sea-shore,i no .i no coat on will keep my eye's open at Manchester,you never no Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Klyzlr Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 the third time of trying to reply - Thanks - seems like shells are few and far between though Dear Jack, eBay.com has maybe 30 on offer at this time, from US$12 up to over US$80, with a number of shells and dummy units sitting around US$25... Happy Modelling, Aim to Improve, Prof Klyzlr PS don't feel bad about not getting the make and model, Baldwin wasn't hugely popular in the diesel world, and there's a number of alegedly "S12" units which are plainly EMD SW models... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 ...yes John, but then they seem to want silly amounts for shipping to UK ......when they will sell to buyers outside the USA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Jack Can it not be built up out of plasti-card and make it look like a in house repair after a knock or crash?? Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share Posted May 17, 2012 Possibly, Ray ! this is the damage - I have the railing I wonder about cutting the entire rear plate off and replacing it with plasticard, and then finding some black& white decal stripes to refit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Go for it,whats the worst that can happen!!! you can still look for another body will keep my eye's open for you Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feather River Bill Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Hey Jack... Did you see my post on MTI about modelling damaged units? This could be it! I see a small scene with a couple repairman and a blowtorch on an quiet siding... Bill 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof Klyzlr Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Dear Jack, Not sure I'd cut the entire pilot away, lots of risk of furthur snapping suddenly-freestanding step treads and similar away. Looking at the shape of the damage, it looks as if it nicely follows the profile of the stepwell, and could emulate some of the varying pilot shapes evident in shortline, steelmill, and even some "branchline canadian" locos. IE, instead of building a replacement Up, why not trim the other corners back to match? Happy Modelling, Aim to Improve, Prof Klyzlr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 Thanks guys - I'll give it some further thought - the other alternative might be a different bodyshell - does anyone know what will fit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Jack Prof's idea's worth thinking about. As for alterntive bodys the SW7 will probably fit, don't think the SW1001/1500 will, they have clips that slid into hole in the chassis The S12/SW7 bodys fit over small lugs on the side of the fuel tanks Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted May 18, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 18, 2012 I would file the break straight then glue on a piece of styrene with solvent. Once its set, file it to shape. Should be as strong as the original. Fox do various white line widths if you still want to keep the black and white stripes. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northpoint Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Bring it to the show Jack and we'll have a competition to see who can repair it!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted May 18, 2012 Author Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) I'll see if I can do something with it in the meantime - after all it is 4 WEEKS TOMORROW! Countdown in progress I suspect there will be too much chatting going on for any serious work to take place! ADDENDUM I have had a good look and I don't think a repair is possible - there is nothing at all to support the piece if made and glued, which would leave it very vulnerable to being knocked off. I think a replacement shell is about the only possibility Edited May 18, 2012 by shortliner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Bring it to the show Jack and we'll have a competition to see who can repair it!! Can I put trolley poles on it...? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
signalmaintainer Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Can I put trolley poles on it...? Tickled my funny bone, that did! Seems to me there's a Southern Pacific prototype to refer to on this. ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 SP/PE Baldwin VO1000's available from Bowser and used to activate grade crossing signal detectors in the overhead wire. Someone once also tried to tell me the UP had a similarly equipped diesel for a shortline in Utah, but I haven't been able to find any further info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Hi Jack....that really is repairable, and can be made relatively strong too. I suggest taking advantage if the fact that many pilots were plated and/or riveted....possibly as accident-repairs? Cleaning up the jagged edge as suggested by roundhouse is the first step..then some plasticard of appropriate thickness can be welded on....but for strength, why not cut out a piece of quite thin plasticard, to the shape of the left side of the pilot face, up to the draught box [for windy couplers?}... and glue that as an overlay [[after cleaning up the stripy bits first]...over the pilot face ...with perhaps some riveting or weld lines marked on? This thin plate would then support the repair from the front [if welded, especially].... A bit of paint, and I bet no-one would ever, ever, ever notice? Of course, I have two Athearn SW7/9's......neither of which I probably would use again [one has Ernst gearing!!!]...but I do not know whether the EMD chassis is identical to the Baldwin S12 chassis for a direct bodyshell swap? I would be pleased to swap one of my shells with you.[chose,hand-painted BN green, or hand-painted UP yellow? Both decalled a long time ago, when my eyes were better, and I didn't shake so much!] Better than spending money these days, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Talking of Bowser.... Cary used to make solid metal bodyshells of switchers that fitted over Athearn chassis..... Of course, has time really passed me by that much, that I am talking about present-day silly prices and hen's teeth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 (edited) Alastairq - you mean like Item number: 190678881038 and Item number: 190678881006 - the postage is a bit eye-watering though! Edited May 19, 2012 by shortliner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Of course, I have two Athearn SW7/9's.........but I do not know whether the EMD chassis is identical to the Baldwin S12 chassis for a direct bodyshell swap? If they are all old Blue Box, I think they are. In fact I did this myself some time ago - I had a dummy SW7, and a motorised Baldwin S-12. I simply swapped the bodies over, and the now-dummy Baldwin went as Trade-in Fodder to my local model shop, whilst the now-motorised SW7 joined my other SW7 in service..... I may have swapped the truck side frames too - can't remember now I'm afraid!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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