RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted July 23, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2012 A change of interest - was there still a carpet weaving industry in the modelled area and time frame ? SWMBO's father came from a long line of carpet weavers, based in Oldbury. If so, would there be any special wagons for finished carpets or the raw materials? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted July 23, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2012 And just for Black Country interest, Round Oak in the late 1970's not long before closure. It was jointly owned by the B.S.C. and Tube Investments. Arthur Pity it doesn't show about 50 yards further to the left where the flat crossing was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted July 24, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2012 A change of interest - was there still a carpet weaving industry in the modelled area and time frame ? SWMBO's father came from a long line of carpet weavers, based in Oldbury. If so, would there be any special wagons for finished carpets or the raw materials? The carpet industry was centred around Kidderminster I think. Not sure about specific wagons or how active the industry was in our timeframe. Would hazard a guess at vanfits or containers for finished carpets; maybe highs for raw materials? Interested to find out more if anyone has any suggestions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted July 24, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2012 Carpet, that's posh that is. When I were a lad we had sawdust, and we was well lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Carpet, that's posh that is. When I were a lad we had sawdust, and we was well lucky. You were spoilt - we lived in a cardboard box, in the middle of the road, worked 25 hours a day ......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted July 24, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 24, 2012 Managed to find our way over to Bolsover, but still in need of a good navigator, so not stopping.. Definitely got a bit lost now, ended up in this place called Glen Gillie: Managed to find the road back to England, and have stopped for a break in Widnes: Huh! Leave your car for just a few minutes and some wag has moved it! 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Pity it doesn't show about 50 yards further to the left where the flat crossing was. What, this flat crossing The original alignment The new alignment post 1970 following significant alterations to the works layout and facilities and one of the locos crossing with a train, no later than June 1963 when the fleets last steam loco went. After that a fleet of eleven Yorkshire DE2 0-4-0DE's handled the traffic. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted July 24, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 24, 2012 CK, got a bit lost trying to plot the route taken to my house.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 BSC steel processing Mark. You need one of Judith Edge's Yorkshire diesels finished in a Round Oakesque style Carpet making - Jute was brought down in vans from Dundee to Kidderminster for the industry, latterly in supervans if my memory serves me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler Fan Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I'm thinking the end section with a full depth of the skirt, and butting against the side skirts, with a nominal 2" x 2" block in each corner, screwed, would add considerable strength and stop a lot of whip. The arrangement you have does not appear to cash-in on using the strength of plywood, edgewise. May be someone else can see the same weakness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted July 25, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 25, 2012 D, I notice in the DitD board shots there's another tree victim.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted July 26, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2012 Carpet making - Jute was brought down in vans from Dundee to Kidderminster for the industry, latterly in supervans if my memory serves me. Cheers Phil. Use of supervans suggests the traffic flow lasted longer than I expected and could be another source of traffic passing by along our line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 D, I notice in the DitD board shots there's another tree victim.... oooops it wasn't me gov Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted July 26, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2012 oooops it wasn't me gov I'll stuff them cats next time i'm there.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I really need Mikeh to help me here but in my dark recesses I have a speedlink flow from Dundee which died in the early 80s. May have been off 4V10 which I think was a Glasgow-Bristol speedlink - probably the reverse of 4S38. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted July 27, 2012 Author Share Posted July 27, 2012 I'll stuff them cats next time i'm there.... poor cats, and they helped so much with BCB. I'm up for a board move at the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard of the Moor Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 What are these "supervans" of which you speak? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 27, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2012 The carpet industry was centred around Kidderminster I think. Not sure about specific wagons or how active the industry was in our timeframe. Would hazard a guess at vanfits or containers for finished carpets; maybe highs for raw materials? Interested to find out more if anyone has any suggestions. My reply seems to have vanished. Anyway traffic being despatched from Kidderminster in the late 1960s (and I think into the 1970s) was mainly - if not entirely - on mail order company account and a lot of it went as Passenger Rated although it wasn't unusual for a Vanfit to come up on the 19.53 Kiddie-Padd parcels (not infrequently containing only one roll of carpet or lino). I believe at least one of the mail order houses also sent traffic Goods Rated but don't know if any emanated from the Kidderminster area. Woolworths definitely received Freight Rated traffic and that included lino for some of their larger shops but I don't know when NCL turned it all over to road haulage. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted July 28, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2012 What are these "supervans" of which you speak? As I understand it, supervan refers to the air braked vans in the VAA - VDA family, but I've only recently heard them referred to as such so I could be wrong. Was it BR-speak at the time to call them supervans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted July 28, 2012 Author Share Posted July 28, 2012 Getting ready to 'fly the nest' Off to '2manyspams' we go - or should that be '2manyboards' 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted July 28, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2012 Too many boards is right.....I've got all of TG, three of John's Outlaw boards and now BCB! Looking forward to the arrival.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted July 28, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2012 Space cleared in the garage for the delivery, and promptly (as with any tidy space in the house) the kids start dumping stuff.... Typical! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted July 28, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2012 BSC steel processing Mark. You need one of Judith Edge's Yorkshire diesels finished in a Round Oakesque style Cheers for that Phil. At this stage, we've gone for a Janus rather than the YE 0-4-0s that were at RO; although I'd like to think we have room in the fleet for one of these in the future. Round Oak Steelworks by Lost-Albion, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted July 29, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 29, 2012 (edited) In my job in the early 1980s I got to ride on the Saloon when the boss went out and about. We had a real Black Country Blue trip late in 1982, joining at Langley Green, running out to Hartlebury then back to Walsall via Dudley. Photography was difficult as it didn't really get light all day, but I have just retrieved some thin old negatives that were passed over at the time from the archive. They were taken as the gloom gathered at Round Oak South, so apologies for the quality but some of the content may be of interest, especially as it was just a few weeks before the works closed. All photographs copyright C E Steele Our transport for the day - Blue Rat and Walsall Saloon Kingswinford Junction South Box Signal No3 Up line by site of old station The works with a YE shunter The flat crossing Looking towards Pensnett Captions updated 30/7/2012 Edited July 30, 2012 by TheSignalEngineer 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted July 30, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 30, 2012 Great shots, it is nice to see some period shots that are new to the public eye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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