RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2014 when we switch to the steam era When was this decided, I don't remember voting on it? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Ref the billets Mark; Size first, any length you want really, no standards. They're rolled very long and sheared off, as they come out if the mill, to whatever the works or customer specifies. Anything between 25' and 40' are typical and there's enough steel in such a length to satisfy most needs. Short lengths require extra handling, longer increases the difficulty in both handling and transport so, certainly done, but only if an absolute requirement. Billets incoming to Trafalgar works in 1976 would be cropped to suit the reheating furnaces, up to 40' would be fine. Yes, steam era things change. The works is then making steel and would ship out anything from full ingots, blooms, billets and whatever sections you fancy. Not even the biggest works made everything and Trafalgars most likely existence would have been as a producer of narrow flats and light to medium sections. Wide and heavy plate and hot rolled coil were not typical Black Country products. Tube was but, if associated with it, Trafalgar would probably roll 'skelp', flat narrow strip with tapered edges supplied to the tube rollers, where it is rolled up and welded longitudinally. At the end of the day, it's a model, and I can write up a plausible scenario to suit any load type you fancy, the main prototype limitation is that no works made everything. Hope that helps. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2014 Hope that helps. Yes, that helps a lot, thank you. So I guess the range of sections we might be rolling could be similar to those shown in the old adverts on this site? Keep meaning to make a copy of one of those adverts and amend it to show the name of Trafalgar Works! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Yeah, those ads illustrate some of the kinds of sections Trafalgar Works would produce. The combined Wolverhampton and Birchley Rolling Mills (1956) rolled 100,000 tons a year. Even a small integrated (that is, iron & steel making and rolling) works like Trafalgar would have rolled at least 350,000 tons a year at that time. So the product range would have been wider, larger size ranges too, but those ads would fit the bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 No no no no ! I've just got back from Skiing in Cortina, in Italy. Keen to discover the history of the railway remains in the town I've just done a google image search on 'Railways of Cortina'. What comes up first? Our very own Cortina on BCB next to the canal ! ha ha ha ha ha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted March 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2014 I'm not fitting skis to it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I'm sorry, skiing? Surely not! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 I'm not fitting skis to it... Light-weight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 Ski-ing in a cortina? better than driving one I guess To be fair I did occasionally suffer with 'Over-steer' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted March 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2014 Ski-ing in a cortina? better than driving one I guess Ask Schumy!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 8, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2014 To be fair I did occasionally suffer with 'Over-steer' Tail-end happy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted March 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2014 Put it this way, skiing and cortina driving both involve skids Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 Put it this way, skiing and cortina driving both involve skids There were a lot of skidies - but there always are.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted March 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2014 To be fair I did occasionally suffer with 'Over-steer' You mean 'fall over steer' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted March 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2014 You mean 'fall over steer' That's what you got after a trip to Ma Pardoe's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 9, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2014 How about Kadees?! Hopefully this will prove that Kadees are NOT required (and a bit of rat thrash too): Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 9, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2014 Hopefully this will prove that Kadees are NOT required (and a bit of rat thrash too): Ah, but look, the AJs came apart in the end... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted March 9, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2014 Ah, but look, the AJs came apart in the end... Only on the uncoupler...... A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted March 9, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2014 Hopefully this will prove that Kadees are NOT required (and a bit of rat thrash too): How did the last exhibition day for Foundry Lane go ???? Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 9, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2014 How did the last exhibition day for Foundry Lane go ???? Andy Very well, thanks; and thanks again for your help yesterday and at the previous shows we've done. I reckon you've spent almost as much time as I have shunting on this little layout! From the BCB fleet; 25038 with a few engineers wagons: 25145 stands in a deserted Foundry Lane having just emptied the sidings for the last time: Flashback to how it all started, the 25 in the distance would later become 25145: So that's it FL has now officially retired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 9, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2014 Ah, but look, the AJs came apart in the end... and so it should, it had been propelled over a magnet, thus demonstrating the delay uncoupling abilities of the mighty AJ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 10, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2014 Only on the uncoupler...... A Convenient excuse ;-p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ELTEL Posted March 10, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2014 Very well, thanks; and thanks again for your help yesterday and at the previous shows we've done. I reckon you've spent almost as much time as I have shunting on this little layout! From the BCB fleet; 25038 with a few engineers wagons: WP_20140309_003.jpg 25145 stands in a deserted Foundry Lane having just emptied the sidings for the last time: WP_20140309_012.jpg Flashback to how it all started, the 25 in the distance would later become 25145: So that's it FL has now officially retired. Hi Mark Sorry I was unable to see Foundry Lanes last outing, hope all went well. Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 16, 2014 25187's works visit is progressing nicely. Following the arrival of a Legomanbiffo sound chip, it was time to start putting it all back together. Here is a comparison between the original chassis and its replacement: The cab floor and bufferbeam will be attached to the body - I've not done that yet as I want to paint the cab interior grey first. Here's a comparison to 25145 which hasn't yet had this modification (but might be the next one to be done): 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 17, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17, 2014 Remember that Cambrian Catfish I was working on? It's finally had a visit to the paint shop: 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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