Timara Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 If Mike Edge doesn't etch a boiler he must have an easier way to do it - he etches the bits he needs to - so why are we all rushing off etching brass which might be easier to do another way - looks like brass for the boiler and steel for the smokebox/firebox or may be involved? That's pretty much spot on as to how Mike does things. Believe me, it works better than I thought it would! As for the firebox, it's actually nickel-silver sheet, rather than steel. At least, that's what I remember Mike telling me at Nottingham..... I've been taking a break from this one while I wait for things to arrive later this month. One of Mr Gibbon's lovely chassis etches for a Jinty has been on the go today and very nice it is too. One could call it a dry run for doing the undercrackers on this 'ere Princess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) That's pretty much spot on as to how Mike does things. Believe me, it works better than I thought it would! As for the firebox, it's actually nickel-silver sheet, rather than steel. At least, that's what I remember Mike telling me at Nottingham..... It would have to be n/s - it doesn't transmit heat as well as brass, so there's less chance of burning your fingers quickly whilst you solder things onto it. I've been taking a break from this one while I wait for things to arrive later this month. One of Mr Gibbon's lovely chassis etches for a Jinty has been on the go today and very nice it is too..... Over on the Scalefour Forum, they've having "The Great 3F Build-Off" - people are dusting off their "3F" power division loco kits and seeing - amongst other things - who'll be the first to complete one. No tank engine entries yet. I'm having very impure thoughts about that LRM "Jinty" kit with Ultrascales sitting behind me, but I'd prefer to do more work propagating my hybrids! Edited July 3, 2012 by Horsetan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted July 6, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2012 Horsetan said: "It would have to be n/s - it doesn't transmit heat as well as brass, so there's less chance of burning your fingers quickly whilst you solder things onto it." I have known Mike for thirty odd years and no matter what material he uses he doesn't burn his fingers! He uses the material best suited for the job in hand and is very skilled with the soldering iron. I have learned a lot form him over the years not least of which is right tools/materials to do the job. Just a shame I can't manage to put things together as well as both him and Coachman!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 Just a quick note for anyone attending the Members' Day tomorrow..... I'll have the various completed bits of the model with me if anyone fancies a closer look. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted July 6, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2012 Oh yeah! .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 ....I have known Mike for thirty odd years and no matter what material he uses he doesn't burn his fingers! ..... Not all of us are blessed with fingers made of PBI! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicktoix Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 Mr Edge has asbestos fingers and quick reactions as well !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy C Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 Got to say having now seen it in the flesh so to speak how impressive the etches are. Looking forward to seeing this progress now Mr Easter, and could be tempted myself. But a Duchess first methinks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted July 7, 2012 Author Share Posted July 7, 2012 Got to say having now seen it in the flesh so to speak how impressive the etches are. Looking forward to seeing this progress now Mr Easter, and could be tempted myself. But a Duchess first methinks! Thankyou Andy. I'm sure we can tempt you into doing one for New Hey can't we . Regarding a Duchess, I think we'll wait and see what Mr Brewin brings out later this year for the chassis side of things and do something akin to this clever method. Hornby's rear frames on the newest models are most excellent indeed. Having got my aforementioned Jinty chassis mostly built now, the queue is open for the Princess to gain assembled frames in a few weeks' time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted July 7, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2012 As Andy above has said, very impressive etches and a nice job you are making of it too. Sadly I have no use for one of these beauties... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 Okay, so a little bit of an update (sans photos).... There is a strong possibility that I may do this one as 46206 Princess Marie Louise in BR green.... It largely depends on how things go with any amendments that are dealt with to the etch (via Mike) and whether they cater for the different rivet patterns on the cabsides of the prototype pair or not. If the cabsides stay unaltered, then the model will continue to be done as 46200. If changed, then I'll end up with two of these beasties, which will mean I then have a surfeit of 8P motive power. Not that I'm grumbling of course? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted July 9, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) having seen (and held) the item I can also confirm how flippin lovely it is. With an infinite amount of time available I would love to do a Princess Margaret Rose, as I used to be a cleaner on her and helped with the original restoration back to main line running in the '80s. So far down the list though to be right off the bottom ..... Mine would be OO too Edited July 9, 2012 by RedgateModels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I'd still like to build one as 46201. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted July 16, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 16, 2012 If Mike Edge doesn't etch a boiler he must have an easier way to do it - he etches the bits he needs to - so why are we all rushing off etching brass which might be easier to do another way - looks like brass for the boiler and steel for the smokebox/firebox or may be involved? Over to you Mr E (and when do get to weather one??) Boilers take up a lot of space on the etch and they are simple shapes with no detail. You should get the next one, "Princess Louise", later this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted July 16, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Boilers take up a lot of space on the etch and they are simple shapes with no detail. You should get the next one, "Princess Louise", later this year. Yippeedddooo! although I think I did rework one earlier (?) Edited July 16, 2012 by chessieliner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Mmm, I do hope the etches get offered to the general public eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Michael Edge Posted July 29, 2012 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2012 As I have posted elsewhere, we are willing to order some more of the present Princess etches at £45 although I do intend to revise it eventually. Any definite orders can probably be supplied in September - please let us know if you want one. Meanwhile another photo of one of the original pair, as before painted by Graham Varley. 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Melrose Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Mike - what will be the differences between the current version of the etch and a revised version that you may make available at a later date? ATB, Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 ..... another photo of one of the original pair, as before painted by Graham Varley. Phwoar..... PM sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tom F Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 As I have posted elsewhere, we are willing to order some more of the present Princess etches at £45 although I do intend to revise it eventually. Any definite orders can probably be supplied in September - please let us know if you want one. Meanwhile another photo of one of the original pair, as before painted by Graham Varley. My word! That could make me switch modelling LMR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 Very nice indeed Mike! Mine will be rather cleaner than that one though . Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I alighted at Colwyn Bay (from Manchester) in 1962 on a job hunting spree and a Lizzie was standing in the main Up platform on the 'Horse & Carriage'. The loco couldn't have had many weeks life ahead of it but it looked magnificent and clean and, to me, a cut above a Duchess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy C Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Now that is what I call a quality model in build and finish. Just looks like its come of an express working at Glasgow Central after a hard workout up Beattock, it oozes character. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted July 30, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2012 after looking at the photos of some supper models i think i may have to bay one of your kits as its my brithday soon and i can't think of a better thing to look forward to then a lizie that looks so real unlike the Hornby one which i could not bring may self to bay in the end even after holding one and having the cash for it. i just hope i'll be up to the job to build one just half as good and i would be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 after looking at the photos of some supper models i think i may have to bay one of your kits as its my brithday soon and i can't think of a better thing to look forward to then a lizie that looks so real unlike the Hornby one which i could not bring may self to bay in the end even after holding one and having the cash for it. i just hope i'll be up to the job to build one just half as good and i would be happy. Hi farren, I do hope you realise that this isn't a kit by any shape of the word. There are no instructions, a boiler and firebox to be made from scratch, no frame spacers, designed to be built to EM gauge (It'll be more than possible to do it as P4 though) and you will also need a rivet press for it. There are other parts you will need to source from elsewhere, not to mention some from scratch. Good luck anyway! Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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