brian777999 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I have built the Dapol 15T diesel crane and a couple of the Cambrian GWR cranes. Does anybody else make OO gauge crane kits ? They are always interesting to build and look good when finished. I prefer plastic but I would look at brass or white metal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 The other kit I can think of is the D&S kit for a Cowan Sheldon 10t which is sometimes available in two types of jib. There is an R&R crane available as a ready built, but I've not seen one yet. I saw an etch from PH design for a Cravens jib, but not heard more. The Hornby 75T has potential The Dublo 45T also might give scope for modification. The old triang hand crane is very under rated, and I do a detailing kit for it.http://www.metropolitanrailway.co.uk/Cowans_sheldon_handcranes.html there is also a DC kits 12t telescopic, but I don't think its much cop. Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike morley Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 ABS do a one-and-a-half tonner and match wagon; the type that was used at sidings and minor stations too small to merit their own crane. I bought mine donkeys years ago (the page from the Radio Times used as packing is from Sunday 18th May 1997!) but still havent built it so cannot comment on how user-friendly it is. It's mostly cast whitemetal with a few etched bits for the jib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 Where do you buy ABS kits and D&S kits ? Are they still in business ? Do they accept credit card orders over the phone as I live in Australia ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike morley Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 ABS is Adrian Swain 39 Napier Road Hamworthy Poole Dorset BH15 4LX Phone number 01202(Uk dialling code, I'm not sure what the international code would be) 672891. Adrian doesnt have a website and doesnt take credit cards but is helpful and easy to deal with. I may not have built this particular kit of his, but I've built several others and have found them all fairly easy to put together. The cranes stock number is F294 and according to his 2012 price list it is £16.20 D&S has been 7mm only for some years now so the only way you'll get any of his 4mm stuff is via Ebay and the like. D&S kits are very highly sought-after so expect to bid hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Actually D & S have been rerunning 4mm kits in small batches for some time now. Their crane does go for a fortune on Ebay but I know a number of people who've just rung Dan up and got one direct. Brassmasters do a match wagon for it and are also advertising the crane itself, so that might be the best way to go, especially as I'm not sure if Dan takes credit cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Hang on, there's that US beauty that a few of us sourced last year. If Dave (Max Stafford) is about he may recall more accurately its identity. US outline but nicely workable as a UK outline beast of the thirties. There was a thread on here about it at the time, perhaps roughly twelve months ago. I'm at work and my example is in the to-do-queue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Here is the thread, unfortunately the ebay link is now broken: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/36398-top-notch-ho-crane-kit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Actually D & S have been rerunning 4mm kits in small batches for some time now. Their crane does go for a fortune on Ebay but I know a number of people who've just rung Dan up and got one direct. ..... Wonder how many of those went straight to eBay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sidecar Racer Posted June 29, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2012 Still on Ebay with a bit of a search . http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=brownhoist+crane+&_sacat=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portchullin Tatty Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 The other kit I can think of is the D&S kit for a Cowan Sheldon 10t which is sometimes available in two types of jib. Actually it is the Cowan Sheldon 15t crane. It came with a choice of jibs, so can build all but a couple of the cranes that Cowan's produced of this series. There was talk of 5552 Models producing a kit for the Highland one (which would be one that the D&S kit will not do) but this may not come to anything. Brassmasters are updating this kit for a release during this year. The website says the first half of the year and I do know that a lot of work has been completed on the revamp, so it will be soon. With the exception of the Cowans Sheldon crane, the production run of all of the remaining possibilities were quite small. And a shameless plug for my father's book on railway breakdown cranes - http://www.noodleboo...tegory/NewBooks; volume 1 (cranes without relieving bogies) was published earlier this year, volume 2 (with relieving bogies) is fundementally written and about to go to the publishers (and is substantial, so might need to be split into two). There may even be a volume 3 but this would not deal with breakdown cranes per say. If anyone out there reckons they are an authority on crane locomotives, volume 4 awaits you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 Here is one of the Dapol cranes finished in grey livery. The runners are built from the Cambrian single plank LMS wagon fitted with AG wheels and three link couplers. I use chain because it hangs more naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Harvey Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 The Crain I designed the etch for was a Cravens 35t Crane used by the LNWR and was in 4mm. If anyone would like more info please contact me through my web site? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Nonneminstre Models do a self propelled Coles Crane in whitemetal designed to sit on a spud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 Here is another Dapol crane ; this time in black livery. I like building cranes and this is a good kit for a very cheap price. The runners were scratch built from some 4 plank wagon kits. I wish somebody would make a kit for an LMS crane. I would love to paint one in crimson lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyskelton Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Fantastic modelling Brian... quick question, as I'm building this model as I type... one hand on the keyboard the other holding the pieces whilst they set, got to make sure I don't mix the two together or this keyboard will be ruined.. anyway, the question, could you point me in the direction of the chain you used please - it really does set this piece off fantastically well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 I bought this on ebay but the seller is not selling it at the moment. I did find some even finer chain from a guy in the US (ebay). He will cut it to any length you require and blacken it for you which is a big help. I will try to find an ebay link for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 This is the ebay shop I bought it from. You can send them an email and ask if they still have 0.5 mm chain : http://myworld.ebay.com.au/darls-craftworks/&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2754 If they do not have it then you can contact this guy and ask him for 24 inches of his finest chain (40 link detailing chain). It should look even better as it is blackened and you will not have to airbrush it or blacken it yourself : http://myworld.ebay.com.au/tallyhothefox/&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2754 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Black-Brass-Detaling-Chain-40-Link-HO-S-On30-O-logging-mining-/221196089543?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item33805078c7 UPDATE : I think they still have the .5 mm jewellery cable http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Brass-Fine-Gauge-5mm-Jewellery-Cable-Chain-x-2-Meters-/120921287929?pt=AU_Jewellery_Boxes_Supplies&hash=item1c27786cf9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbyandbf3fan Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Excellent modelling brian, I've got one and I'd like to build something similar and make a breakdown train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Excellent modelling brian, I've got one and I'd like to build something similar and make a breakdown train. Worth remembering that the Airfix/Dapol crane isn't a breakdown one, its probably closest to a track or signals crane. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbyandbf3fan Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 A works train then? The crane, two 1 plank wagons to hold the jib, a full brake coach, some box wagons and a 13t sand tippler. Or I could get some ballast wagons or some suitable kit wagons. I'd be happy with it. Or some well wagons and/or pipe wagons. Make a nice change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Alternative match vehicle for the Dapol/Airfix is to modify a Ratio GWR bogie bolster. Also the same kit could be modified to the rigid 8 wheel chassis version as below Mike Wiltshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbyandbf3fan Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 How does the crane do around 2nd radius corners as the layout I run most of my trains on has them? Also, what about 2nd radius points? Thanks for the picture too, has anyone else got any more pictures of the kit in real life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I took the photo in the 1970's for a late friend who wanted to build the then Airfix kit as a rigid 8 wheeler using plasticard sides and cast axleboxes from somewhere. He used the hidden inside bogies from a Hornby Dublo A4 tender and it went around Triang system 6 curves with no issue.He modified a Hornby Dublo bogie bolster as the runner. Mike Wiltshire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbyandbf3fan Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I took the photo in the 1970's for a late friend who wanted to build the then Airfix kit as a rigid 8 wheeler using plasticard sides and cast axleboxes from somewhere. He used the hidden inside bogies from a Hornby Dublo A4 tender and it went around Triang system 6 curves with no issue.He modified a Hornby Dublo bogie bolster as the runner. Mike Wiltshire Ok then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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