drmditch Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) So, what's the matter with small 0-6-0s and the grubby three plank dropside wagon that I've spent the last few weeks making? Something had to earn the money! (I would say dividends, but I'm an LNER modeller not a shareholder!) (Please excuse posting on this thread.) Edited July 20, 2014 by drmditch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclebobkt Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 ... . What a time to have lived! (If one tries to forget there was a World War around the corner!) I was born in the early/mid-thirties; pre-war we lived near to East Finchey U'gd. station, where - memory suggests - there used to be an L&NER. goods'/marshalling yard. Sometime in my early life I contracted Double Pneumonia wch. - in those far-off days - necessitated daily visits from our GP. - Dr. Knightley-Smith, who had his own model railway in his garden! I used to look-forward to his visits because before starting any examinations he used to sit-down at the bedside and draw L&NER. express locos. for me, (presumably A1s.?),. But I must confess that despite that intro. to the L&NER. my allegiance was given to the Copper & Brass/Chocolate & Cream from farther West - possibly as returning from Truro to Padd'n. the train used to stop at Exeter and once I bought a couple of those booklets issued by the GWR. publicity dep't. - wch. couldn't have been all that expensive as I, an impecunious schoolboy was able to afford them; and the rest, as is said, is history! Ah. those were the days - long before 'The days of Wine & Roses.' - ha! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2750 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Morning all! An enjoyable operating session yesterday at 'Grantham'. I didn't do as much operating as I could have, ....however I think Sir can forgive me as I was filming quite a bit of footage. Enjoy! http://youtu.be/f8PmlZaebSA 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Morning all! An enjoyable operating session yesterday at 'Grantham'. I didn't do as much operating as I could have, ....however I think Sir can forgive me as I was filming quite a bit of footage. Enjoy! http://youtu.be/f8PmlZaebSA Good Morning Tom Many thanks for putting the video on the thread I thoroughly enjoyed watching it. I was amazed how this layout has come on and your video gives the perspective to see just how much hard work had gone into producing a very nice layout of Grantham station and the surrounding areas and the guys who built it deserve a lot of credit. Dare I say I still prefer to see LNER Pacifics modelled in Brunswick Green because that is how I remember seeing them, but to see those model locomotives ahead of Teak coaches I must say they do look stunning. Regards David Edited July 27, 2014 by landscapes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phixer64 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Wow, some fantastic modelling here, its getting there, and better. Keep up the fantastic work. Jeff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Morning all! An enjoyable operating session yesterday at 'Grantham'. I didn't do as much operating as I could have, ....however I think Sir can forgive me as I was filming quite a bit of footage. Enjoy! http://youtu.be/f8PmlZaebSA Like like like like like like like!!' Bloody love this!! Thanks for posting! Back off to watch it again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Magnificent video of my favourite layout. The opening panorama of the north end gave me goose bumps, and the V2 rock n rolling through the station followed by a fast pan into the tunnel was sublime. Very much looking forward to seeing the full Grantham in the future. I shall be hanging over the barriers for hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2750 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Magnificent video of my favourite layout. The opening panorama of the north end gave me goose bumps, and the V2 rock n rolling through the station followed by a fast pan into the tunnel was sublime. Very much looking forward to seeing the full Grantham in the future. I shall be hanging over the barriers for hours. Thanks! I'm glad to footage has been appreciated. The shot of the V2 was 'robert's idea, and does look good. The weaving from side to side seems quite prototypical. Thanks again LNER4479. Really enjoyed yesterday, and gave me the boost I needed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2750 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Just rewatching the video again, and the one thing that really stands out to me, is Jonathan's excellent parcel train. I didn't really appreciate it fully when viewing yesterday, but the finish on them is really excellent. Varying degrees of weathering, and wood colouring. Really love the variety and difference in each vehicle. Oh....and I quite liked the motive power on the train too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) I did a little bit of photography today while we were winding down. I expect there'll be more along shortly. I found myself opposite the MPD looking at a pair of J39s: And at almost the two extremes of LNER motive power of the time: This one was taken because I thought I couldn't work out the control panel and was incapable of getting the train to move, so it kept me occupied while Robert came back to explain what I'd done wrong. Turned out the loco had failed (it had an intermittent fault all weekend). We ran Mr King's ironstone hoppers and they were very much deserving of close attention: They stand up to the cruelty of the closeup very well indeed. Edited October 17, 2018 by jwealleans 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LNER4479 Posted July 27, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Thanks! I'm glad to footage has been appreciated. The shot of the V2 was 'robert's idea, and does look good. The weaving from side to side seems quite prototypical. Thanks again LNER4479. Really enjoyed yesterday, and gave me the boost I needed! Well, thanks to you too Tom for there really is some magnificent videoing there. Always nice to see someone else's 'take' on one's efforts. And totally agree re Mr Wealleans superb van train. Not often the subject of the photographers of the era but whenever I have seen a picture it is almost invariably a delightful mixture of stock so I am sure this is a convincing representation - and certain to have a slot in the working schedule in amongst the expresses. As host (and operating tutor), it is always difficult to get any sort of decent record of the visit, but here are a few aspects I did catch, concentrating mainly some impressive rolling stock developments. First of all, the Leeds Quint Diner set (the full story of which can be seen on Mr Wealleans' workbench thread) Tom's latest A4 (none other than 'celebrity' 4489 that we've all become so familiar with over the last 18 months) has charge of the Up working (depart Leeds 5.30pm, due King's Cross 9.25. At the head is one of the West Yorkshire three-coach portions (Brake Third - Full Third - Brake First). The twelve-wheeled clerestory is perhaps 'pushing it a bit' for 1937-ish (but irresistible!); the Brake First is a GNR built Gresley vehicle (all JW's work) A thoughtful platform ender has trained his camera on the main object of interest as the train accelerates away towards the south. This should be quite a sight when finished. For the benefit of those perhaps not steeped in ECML folklore, this was a unique five vehicle articulated luxury dining set specially built for the Leeds-London service, entering service in 1921 (and written off after a shunting accident in 1953). Built to the full width of the generous GNR loading gauge, it was captive to the Leeds route all its life as it would not 'fit' anywhere else! The following morning(!) the Down working (King's Cross dep 10.10am) heads north through Grantham behind 4491, allowing us to see the set in a wider setting. The full formation of this train was up to 15 vehicles south of Doncaster. We can't practically run trains that length on the layout so our version will have a three-coach portion one end (see above) and a single Brake Compo through coach (Hull) at the other end as a reasonable representation. Turning now to the humdrum, nothing could be less glamorous than the humble goods train but these were in practice the lifeblood of the railway. Here, a northbound iron ore train has paused on the through goods lines. This of course is an example of the well-known iron ore workings from High Dyke sidings, some five miles to the south. However, those familiar with the post-war era of O2s with steel body 16tonner tipplers might not readily recognise this scene. Some commendable and painstaking modelling research by the redoubtable Mr King has produced these exquisite wagons. Vehicles of this distinctive 'peak ended' type were built for the Appleby-Frodingham iron ore traffic. Final livery details etc are still to be ironed out prior to committing to a full production run; for now I'm just in awe of such a dedicated piece of modelling, every bit as impressive as the Quint rake above (I'm sure Jonathan won't mind me saying) and equally as important in trying to recreate a representative balance of the traffic of the period. Also in action was Mr King's 'prototype' V2, his resin moulded body atop a Bachmann chassis. He has very thoughtfully chosen to depict No.4772 as it appears she was a regular at Grantham in the early years (whereas 4771 tended to be kept captive to the London end). Here is a 'still' of the action sequence in Tom's video, depicting 4772 taking the Scotch Goods northwards through Grantham (having taken over from 4771 at Peterborough). Finally, a couple of other random views over the last two days: Great weekend, great running and great company. What more can you ask? Thanks guys (and to Mrs4479 for her part in the hosting) 'Robert' Edited July 28, 2014 by LNER4479 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Gentlemen, and better-halves, Home safely, fed/watered/cleansed, I now have time to return to the dreaded keyboard and my first duty has to be to say thanks to all, hosts in particular (without implication that others did not play their parts) for a most enjoyable, enlightening and absolutely stress-free weekend. Quite a contrast with the one that went before, whose horrors (rightly) lay outside the world of model railways. I feel thoroughly re-charged. I am yet to view Tom's video, but will do so shortly, although I must firstly have a look at what is going on in the world of pointless and ineffective news embargoes..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 VERY nice video Tom. The farce of secrecy continues then? I see one is still not allowed to mention that NRM special which is already widely known thanks to advertisers, publishers and distributors STILL not being able to master the use of a calendar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I love the Frodingham ore hoppers - are they going to be available as kits? I would be very interested in a rake... Of course then I'll need an 04 ,,, however will I explain it all to Dr Mrs G-F? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2750 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) I love the Frodingham ore hoppers - are they going to be available as kits? I would be very interested in a rake... Of course then I'll need an 04 ,,, however will I explain it all to Dr Mrs G-F? How about an O2! Proper GNR motive power. Heck I shouldn't be saying that as a NE man! Edited July 27, 2014 by 2750 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 and an 02 as well, why ever not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 I love the Frodingham ore hoppers - are they going to be available as kits? I would be very interested in a rake... Of course then I'll need an 04 ,,, however will I explain it all to Dr Mrs G-F? How about an O2! Proper GNR motive power. Heck I shouldn't be saying that as a NE man! I'll leave it up to Mr 3279 himself to comment more fully re potential future availability, but... [pedant mode on] For a full rake, it really has to be an O4 and pre-war. The O2s were not that numerous pre-war (I only found out the other day that further batches were built during the war time!) and used on more 'prestige' goods workings. During the war, the wagons were all pooled and ended up all over the place. Post-war, a batch of O2s were allocated to Grantham for the High Dyke workings (apparently in preference to WD 2-8-0s!), by which time the more familiar steel bodied mineral wagons were coming on stream. [pedant mode off] Rule 1 applies Personally, I'd love to see a hopelessly jumbled up rake like this: This is from the Dave F's excellent photostream and is dated 1952. The third vehicle (ie the second wagon actually carrying iron ore) appears to be one of these 'peak enders'. I suspect they didn't last in service much longer than this. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2750 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 That's very interesting 'robert'. So during the 1930s, where were the O2s allocated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Oo-er - dunno! Anyone with a Yeadons out there?(!) My guess would be that they were concentrated on Peterborough-London, as that was where the mega-trains were (the two P1's couldn't handle ALL the traffic on their own!). Plenty of pics in the Goslin book (and others) of them on this stretch. The O4's were the sort of LNER inter-war equivalent of the post-war Eastern-Region WD influx and, as well as the iron-ore traffic, were also dominant on the coal traffic north of Peterborough (according to Goslin), taking 40-50 wagon loads to Peterborough (where they were combined into the long trains, mainly due to capacity restraints south of there). Well that's what I've pieced together from my research, anyhow. Probably needs someone more knowledgeable than me to give the definitive answer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blue Streak Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Wow, Yet another fabulous ECML blog to troll through with plenty of apple green and garter blue A4's with valances just as Gresley Of Doncaster intended Right, I'm off to page 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I believe the O2s worked very largely on the New England and/or March to London (and back) minerals in the 30s. My desire for a Gresley O1 "sister" class stems from the fact that unlike the 3-cylinder equivalents, the 2-cylinder variety did get used on some of the coal trains between South Yorkshire and March, some of which ran via the GN loop line through Bardney (my layout spot) even if most used the GN-GE joint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUTLER2579 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 and an 02 as well, why ever not! That's an O2/! & an O2/2 & an O2/3 with finally an O2/4 is it Dr. how will you explain it all to Dr Mrs G-F? if I may so bold to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 As long as she never sees them all at the same time, she'll think there's only one - 'cos they all look the same to civilians! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Wow, Yet another fabulous ECML blog to troll through with plenty of apple green and garter blue A4's with valances just as Gresley Of Doncaster intended Right, I'm off to page 1. Welcome aboard - I nearly posted some directions on the Peterborough thread a few days ago but you found us anyway. Judging by the image at the foot of your postings, I think you might have a treat in store around about page 22 but I hope you find plenty else to enjoy besides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blue Streak Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Welcome aboard - I nearly posted some directions on the Peterborough thread a few days ago but you found us anyway. Judging by the image at the foot of your postings, I think you might have a treat in store around about page 22 but I hope you find plenty else to enjoy besides. Would that be COA at the head of that magnificent coronation coach set? What a lovely looking rake. I have Teaks coming out of my ears, but I really must look into acquiring some streamlined stock. My interest was sparked when I heard of the Hornby Silver Jubilee coach sets not long back - Until I saw them Edited July 30, 2014 by The Blue Streak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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